Firebird -"ish" build

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  1. mux164

    mux164 Senior Member

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    :thumb:digging firebirds lately, ive actually nearly finished a firebird ukulele thats going to have an angled mini humbucker, vol, tone, 3 way switch and a recessed electro socket jack.
     
  2. pshupe

    pshupe Senior Member

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    That sounds cool. I think I saw it in one of your threads. Looks really nice. I'd like to do a uke at some point was considering acoustic, so may be a little more challenging.

    Cheers Peter.
     
  3. pshupe

    pshupe Senior Member

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    What does trade price mean? Does that mean I'd have to trade in a couple of other pickups? The price sounds good, for sure. Thanks for the offer. The zhangbucker ones were about US$190 including shipping to Canada, which was much better than I had sourced at the usually places by quite a bit and he is a member here as well.

    Cheers Peter.
     
  4. WhiteEpiLP

    WhiteEpiLP Senior Member

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    By trade price he means "tradesman" as in a deal for a professional that the average joe cant get. Usually trade prices come around when purchasing large dollar figures of supplies. Im a general contractor and get better prices at many place then the general public like plumbing fixtures, lighting and flooring. Places that do this are getting harder to find thanks to home depot. Now everyone thinks i should provide them with materials at my cost because they can go to the depot and get it themselves. Those are the people i wont work for.
     
  5. pshupe

    pshupe Senior Member

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    I'm making up some necks for a friend and snagged a really nice piece of black limba. I only needed about 27" for the necks but decided to buy the whole 9' piece after having it planed to reveal the grain. I might use this for the wings for my build.

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    I've got too many other things on my plate right now to do anything with this but I would like to get some thoughts on black limba for wings on this build. Thanks.

    Cheers Peter.
     
  6. valvetoneman

    valvetoneman Senior Member

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    Sorry Peter I only just noticed this, I haven't been busy on here lately
    I was offering a trade price that I pay, not a public price, I don't make money on it just if you get stuck
    They are fantastic pickups though, mojos are all I use now Inc paf replicas
     
  7. pshupe

    pshupe Senior Member

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    Thanks for the offer. I've got a pair on order or I would have definitely taken you up on your offer. I may need to hit you up later on, if I decide to do a vintage build.

    Cheers Peter.
     
  8. The_Nuge

    The_Nuge Senior Member

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    Hi Peter,
    I can check the dimensions on a 2011 'Bird, or do you need vintage specs?
     
  9. pshupe

    pshupe Senior Member

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    I'll take any specs. ;-) I'm wondering the thickness of the laminates in the neck through. I might be building a vintage spec firebird at some point. This one will obviously not be that. I might even make the wings thicker or not taper, as to avoid the neck dive issue. Thanks for all the help guys.

    Cheers Peter.
     
  10. The_Nuge

    The_Nuge Senior Member

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    Here we go then!
    "My" neck is a 9-ply:
    41,5mm-2mm-3,8mm-2mm-10mm-2mm-3,8mm-2mm-41,5mm
    The thickness of the wings tapers from 32mm-26,5mm
    The Neck itself (at the body) is 41,5mm thick.

    Hope this helps!

    Oh, and if you use a strap with a suede backing, neck-dive is not an issue!
     
  11. pshupe

    pshupe Senior Member

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    Thanks - That's great.

    Cheers Peter.
     
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    pshupe Senior Member

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    I had some time to get a little more done with this build. So I was debating adding a scarf joint to this build for no other reason I think they look cool. I can thank KnightroExpress for that. So I spent a bunch of time on logistics, which I threw out the window and just went to it. First thing I did was cut the body angle. From my measurements I went with about 3 degrees.

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    I squared it all up on my new jointer and laid out where I would place the scarf joint.

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    Then turned my attention to the scarf joint - cut on the band saw

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    and jointed the two pieces -
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    Then added the 3 piece laminate at 90 degrees -
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    then the end to make the piece straight again -
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    Now cutting the headstock angle -
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    I made up a head stock template on my CNC machine
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    Then marked it on the neck -
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    Now that I have the head stock angle cut I can route for truss rod and carbon fibre reinforcing rods. This'll have to wait a bit.

    Cheers Peter.
     
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  13. TheHarleyMan2

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    What you mean it'l have to wait a bit? :wtf::eek2: Just kidding!
    Man, We been waiting months for you to complete this nice looking guitar! :applause:
     
  14. pshupe

    pshupe Senior Member

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    Thanks -
    Trust me so have I. Unfortunately the majority of my work that pays for all these nice tools requires me to show up on a consistent basis. I think it's completely unreasonable! ;-)

    Cheers Peter.
     
  15. valvetoneman

    valvetoneman Senior Member

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    Looking great Peter, love the headstock cut out on your cnc

    What is the headstock angle on a firebird
     
  16. WhiteEpiLP

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    Dont worry Peter we've been waiting months for this nice guitar but it also takes months to properly build a nice guitar. Best thing for that neck is to sit a bit after you did the scarf joint. Which will look pretty sweet when all carved up, i too love knightro's builds with is multi piece scarf jointed bolt on necks.
     
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    pshupe Senior Member

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    Cut the truss rod channel, access, and two carbon fibre reinforcing rods into the neck. I should have given it a bit more thought. In hindsight I should have had them extend right out the headstock as there will be a veneer over top of them anyway.

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    I'm starting to think about the wings now and I'm pretty sure I'm going with the black limba I picked up when I did some necks and a body for a friend. I cut and planed the limba for wings.

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    and did a very early mock up. I actually bought a Chinese maestro vibrolo that looks pretty decent. I'll probably use it as it is quite heavy and may help with the neck dive issues.

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    Cheers Peter.
     
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    pshupe Senior Member

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    11 degree angle on the Firebird. I might do a more vintage correct one if this one turns out decent.

    Cheers Peter.
     
  19. TheHarleyMan2

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    Now that is looking good!:dude:
     
  20. redking

    redking Senior Member

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    Nice Bandsaw!! How wide of a board can you re-saw on that puppy? :)
     

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