Fender's new Handwired 1964 Deluxe Reverb

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  1. Marshall & Moonshine

    Marshall & Moonshine Senior Member

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    And I’m gonna beef up the OT, and use good speakers, so it should stay clean right up to the stage volume I need (for clean) and break up soon after.
    I can run it right beside my 5f2 2x10 combo, which has a bit of cleans, but moves nice and easy into dirt.
    It’s a LOT louder than most people probably imagine this amp to be. It’s got higher voltages, bigger OT, JJ 6v6 and a pair of 10’s. For playing leads on a mid-size stage, this thing is perfect.
    A BFPR could be even better.
     
  2. goldtop0

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    They've done that with the 1974X...........surely you have one already:acoustic:
     
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    Me? Nah.
    2204 and done.
    :)
    But I’m gonna mash a 2204 and a 1974 together someday. I may even keep the tremolo.
    Marshall was on track until they started adding reverb.
    IMO. :D
     
  4. goldtop0

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    Yep once they got into that 'mirky water' they forgot about the knitting..........the(their) tremolo is cool though isn't it:dude:
    The 1974X is a better sounding(better tone) unit than the original with a Celestion Blue or Gold added........love it.
     
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    I’m fine with them following the brutality needed for modern metal, I just wish they’d hung on to the stuff that really works well.
    My 2204 is suitable for an insanely wide range of genres.
    Set it all to halfway up and control it with the pick and volume controls.
    I don’t have an issue with channel switching, but their quality went way down. Open up the amps from the mid-80s and older and it’s all Beefcake 3000. Open up the modern stuff and you see where the bean counters got their fingers in there.
    Too bad the caps didn’t grab ‘em.
    :naughty:
     
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    I'd bet you'll be disappointed with the result. EL84s just ain't EL34s. Too damn "chimey" when you push them.
     
  7. Marshall & Moonshine

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    Well that definitely won't work. 6v6 then.
     
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    Agreed.

    The Marshall 2061X is the closest "Marshall" sounding EL84 amp I've heard, although the closed back cab probably helps.
     
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    Allot of 22 watt plexi builds use deluxe reverb transformers I believe. Just use a ss rectifier and couple a 2204 cascaded preamp.
     
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  10. goldtop0

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    Turns out this new '64 HW BFDR is NZ$5.9k dealer price over here which is a lot more than I expected.
    Late last year a local collector put 3 x late '50s Tweed Deluxe's up for sale, two were kosher and one had been mucked around with......but all three sold at around $4.5k........what does that tell you about the market over here:hmm:
     
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    Tells me to vacation in Hawaii and bring home an amp?
     
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    Bali Hai is calling...........
     
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    Why so expensive in NZ?? That seems like an insane price for something that can fit in a shipping container.
    Your import taxes are insane. I get it, if it’s protecting an industry, but I’m not aware of any major amp brands being produced in NZ.
    You guys get so jammed.
     
  14. goldtop0

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    That's right there's no longer any local amp production either guitar or hi fi.
    Our costs for imports are that we get the lower exchange rate to the $US currently at 0.71c so lets say $US2.5k = $NZ$3.2k
    plus freight plus importer and then dealer markups on top of that and our GST tax at 15% on new imported goods.
    The importer/agent buys at a much lower Fender Export price but then the other costs kick in.
    We suffer being a small country(4.6 million) and at the bottom of the globe eg our petrol is at $1.88 per litre minimum.
    I generally buy my gear direct from other countries to get around the above high costs and very rarely locally and only if the price is right.
     
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    Geez. MLP needs to pitch in and rent a boat, load it with gear and float it down there.
    Call it a mission of mercy.
    Just cover the gas.
     
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    i just bought one for $2200 , i think it sounds great , i have a original 64 deluxe thats been recapped & a 3 prong cord installed, w/ a new celestion vintage 30 speaker. to me they sound almost identical. btw , ive been offered $3000 for the old one, its a 1st run of the amp , doesnt even have the fender badge on the grill.
     
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    Found this mint 66 a few months ago , all nos tubes ,2 prong for less than a new one. 99101519-864C-4E35-9B38-9173005651C3.jpeg
     
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  18. Big John

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    American Musical Supply should be getting one back on return soon from my buddy. The amp he was sent sounded like pure, laboratory grade shit. We tried everything we could think of this Sunday: speaker swap, tube swap, guitars, pedals (including his original 808 and Ver.1 OCD), external speaker cabs, and even different cords. $2500 of pure suck. The sad part is I think my buddy isn't the only one to have this experience with this amp. There's been a lot these amps returned to dealers.
     
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    Either of the transformers could be faulty?........who knows.
     
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    Does anyone know why they come with a C12q instead of a C12n?

    And how they took 4 lbs off the weight. Lighter wood?
     
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