Fender Neck Profiles vs Gibson

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  1. Jeremiah

    Jeremiah The Worst Premium Member

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    I was wondering how the neck profiles stacked up against the Gibson ones. My Les Paul has a 50's neck, and I have been looking at the AVRI 70's model, that comes with the U shaped neck. I have heard it is baseball bat-esque, but how does it really stack up against the 50's?

    I have looked over photos but really haven't come across anything that would allow for a fair comparison, and of course my local shops don't have one so there is no way to test it out with my own hands.

    I could always go with an American Special, as they have the same headstock, but with a modern C profile.

    Before my Les Paul, I had a 61 reissue, if that helps for comparison at all.

    Thank you for looking at my cryptic ramblings, and thank you in advance for any insight you might give me.
     
  2. Namelyguitar

    Namelyguitar Senior Member

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    While we're at it, there's the 1960's modern taper D profile on some Epiphone Les Paul, copies.
     
  3. Penny Dreadful

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    This is cool.

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  4. Jeremiah

    Jeremiah The Worst Premium Member

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    I've seen those diagrams, but they seem to only relate to other Fenders, not how they compare to a 50's or 60's Gibson profile.
     
  5. slapshot

    slapshot Senior Member

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    better one with some sizes you can compare
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    i've also never heard of a 70s neck described as being a baseball bat.that's usually reserved for the near inch thick blackguard Tele necks.

    remember they'll also have a round fretboard too usually 9.5"
     
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    had a quick google can't seem to find any sizes in the way of thickness just the " U shaped" profile
     
  7. AxeBuilder

    AxeBuilder Senior Member

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    There's a fair amount of information on the Fender Forum and with Wildwood and Warmoth. First, one needs dimensions for the Fender necks; here's an expanded version of the chart above:

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    And from the Fender Forum:

    1. 1952 Style “U”
    2. 1957-Style Soft "V"
    3. '60 style oval "C": .790" - .930" (ME)
    4. Extreme "V":
    5. Modern flat oval: .820" - .870" (ME)
    6. 1960 P Bass Oval C
    7. 1960 J Bass "U”
    8. 1975 P Bass "U"
    9. 1951 P-Bass “U” Shape
    10. 1969 "U"
    11. 1951 "U": .998" - 1.013" (Wildwood)
    12. Large "C"
    13. Modern "C"
    14. Modern "V"
    15. 10 / 56 "V": .896" - .982" (Wildwood)
    16. Custom Classic J Bass "C”
    17. Custom Classic J Bass 5 "C"
    18. 1959 Esquire "C"
    19. 1965 Strat "C": .842"- .970" (Wildwood)
    20. 1955 P Bass Soft "V"
    21. 1962 Jazzmaster
    22. 1962 Jaguar
    23. 1975 J Bass

    He also lists a:
    51. '66 oval "C" .840 -.960 (ME)

    Additional specs:
    Mid 60's C Neck: .858" - .943" (Wildwood)
    '59 Large C Neck: .894" - .970" (Wildwood)
    Clapton CS: .842" - .964" (Personal)

    Resources

    (link: Fender® Forums • View topic - Fender CS Neck sizes and shapes - a list)


    Wildwood's page:


    Wildwood 10 Neck Shapes and Sizes:
    Necks are all hand sanded and vary a bit in size, these measurements are taken from individual guitars and represent an approximation of size and shape, please inquire for a hands-on description of specific guitars Taper refers to the graduation of thickness from the nut to the 12th fret

    Mid 60's C Neck - .858" at the 1st fret - .943" at the 12th fret, slimmest of the Wildwood 10 neck profiles, the shape is similar to Fender's '65 neck shape ( .842"- .970" ) but not quite as large

    '59 Large C Neck - .894" at the 1st fret - .970" at the 12th fret, Large tapered C neck with bigger "shoulders" than the Mid 60's neck, a chunky C shape

    '57 Soft V Neck - .850" at the 1st fret - .999" at the 12th fret, A soft V neck shape that is similar to the '56 V Boat Neck although the '57 V Neck is more tapered (Slimmer at the 1st Fret and Fatter at the 12th Fret). The V shape becomes more rounded as it goes up the neck toward the body and has a C shape feel with a bit larger shoulder than the '56 V.

    '56 V Neck - .896" at the 1st fret - .982" at the 12th fret, also known as the "Boat Neck", small "shoulders" with most of it's girth at the very center of the back of the neck, this profile is standard on a Fender Custom Shop '56 Strat model

    Nocaster U Neck - .998" at the 1st fret - 1.013" at the 12th fret, this is the largest neck profile with very little taper, large "shoulders", this profile is standard on a Fender Custom Shop '51 Nocaster model

    '52 Medium U Neck - .865" at the 1st fret - .940" at the 12th fret, is very close in thickness to the Mid-60's C neck but has the shape of a '51 Nocaster neck in a smaller size. Large "shoulders" give it a bit of a chunky feel in a medium size neck. A very accurate vintage feeling neck with a 10" radius for modern playability, the best of both worlds.


    From Warmoth:


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    1959 Gibson® Les Paul
    1st fret 0.860"
    12th fret 0.960"

    This image relates a Fender Standard Thin neck to a "typical" 59 LP. For a better perspective on LP neck dimensions, I suggest you check Mark's Guitars or Wildwood.
     
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    my neck is 1 inch all the way down
     
  9. Jeremiah

    Jeremiah The Worst Premium Member

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    It seems like for me, the U shaped neck would not be that big of a stretch, since I am used to the larger necked Les Paul
     
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    I'm guessing the ladies are disappointed when THEY go all the way down, no? That's not much to work with.
     
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    Anyone know of a way to search for Fenders by neck profile? I'd like to get that modern oval (looks similar to LP 60's shape). But I can't find 1 Strat that has it.
     
  12. Jeremiah

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    isn't "Modern C" the Modern flat oval? That is like, every non-custom, non-vintage reissue, strat or tele (not sure on the Telecaster, this definitely applies to Stratocasters). The American Special, Standard, and Deluxe, "Modern C" shape.

    There are some that specify otherwise, but when they do, it is in the title, I saw one that said "Thin V" or something.
     

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