Fading the cherry,

Discussion in 'Gibson Les Pauls' started by mark_knopfler, Nov 15, 2017 at 12:16 AM.

  1. mark_knopfler

    mark_knopfler Junior Member

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    well I know I can find a lot of info about fading the cherry burst,
    But still didn’t find good and fast way to do it,
    Did someone found a fast way to fade the les Paul?
    Here is mine, all I want is just fade it a little bit,
    Don’t need the aged,
    I love this guitar and the extremely dark fretboard, I had couple of les pauls and this one have the darkest ,
    Just need to fade the cherry a little bit.
     

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  2. JoeBguitar

    JoeBguitar Senior Member

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    I suggest UV lamps. Les Pauls after 1959 don't fade like the '58s and '59s did. Eventually enough UV will fade it, but the dye is different those older ones.
     
  3. sk8rat

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    I doubt it will fade like you want it to. I remember someone on here started a thread about fading their lp and they left it out in the sun for hours on end, day after day and when they removed the switch ring, there was hardly any noticeable fading.
     
  4. BadMojo

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    I am looking into a UV light system just for that reason. Im not sure how much fade you will get out of the dye that’s currently on it. However, I’m sure you will get some fading. The light system is very powerful.

    I’ll hit you up when it comes in.

    ;)
     
  5. mark_knopfler

    mark_knopfler Junior Member

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    So the sun is useless, but the UV can do it?
    Is there a recommendation for a UV lamp and where to buy it?
     
  6. mark_knopfler

    mark_knopfler Junior Member

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    Do I need to cover the pickups and fretboard when I use UV light?
     
  7. JoeBguitar

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    I would cover the fretboard and REMOVE the pickups.
     
  8. BadMojo

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    You won’t be able to achieve any fading with store brand lights (with those dyes) I’m using an industrial strength UV light system. They are pretty expensive also.
     
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    The original Les Pauls were not covered up. If anything the ultraviolet light would darken the wood and give you some nice parts shadows. No need to pull the pick ups out.
     
  10. mark_knopfler

    mark_knopfler Junior Member

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    How about a tanning bed?
    They probably looks at me strange when I get in to the saloon with guitar, but if it works so I don’t care.
     
  11. mark_knopfler

    mark_knopfler Junior Member

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    What about the fretboard? Should I cover it?
     
  12. BadMojo

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    Tanning bed would work. You would probably have to do multiple sessions.

    I wouldn’t cover the fretboard. The UV might help darken it and might have a cool reaction with the inlays.

    If you do take your guitar to the tanning bed, please record it. I would love to see the look on the peoples faces when you walk in with a guitar case LOL
     
  13. mark_knopfler

    mark_knopfler Junior Member

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    Well this is going to be even more strange to record it but what the heck, still don’t care ,
    I will do if I choose this way,
    Just need to figured how much it will cost for tanning my “lady”
     
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    Heck yeah, I would too. No shame in my game.

    Good luck!

    Beautiful guitar btw
     
  15. Leña_Costoso

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    To the best of my knowledge, there's a double whammy with modern finishes.

    First is the use of fade resistant dyes - red being one of the worst (easiest) to fade with old dyes.
    Second is the nitrocellulose lacquer formulations in clear coats have a UV inhibitor.

    I tried four successive weekends to fade my LP Std Faded "tobacco burst" (which looked like a clown burst if you ask me). Couldn't even see the switch ring outline. And that was Florida sun. And... I had grave hesitation about getting the guitar so hot in the sun.

    UV will darken the plastic parts - going sorta brownish over time. Think... old "bone" colored printers that ended up a dark yellowish from years in an office filled with florescent lighting. Which brings me to... the tanning bed as a possible way to fade things without getting them heated up. Might end up with stripes like a hot dog on a grille though!
     
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    Interesting thread. Lots of opinions, but almost none from anyone who has successfully faded a top on the model you own. I'd keep researching until you find someone who can tell you how the did it -- not how they think you might possibly be able to do it. You are working with a fade-resistant color.
     
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    Jesus buy a lemon burst because modern dyes won't fade.
     
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    Even if the nitro is a bit different, the dyes are UV resistant - the idea being that even buying a historic practically 100% of people buy the colour they want it to stay.

    I've seen guitars with this sort of dye whose owners have got it to fade eventually - what a washed out mess they turned out!!
     
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    From all the replies and trying to decide what I would do "if" I could not live with the color I had. I think it just might be easier to sand the top and use water based dyes to get what you want. You can add or subtract what ever color you are after by sanding. Then, the clear coat (of choice) is easy.

    I am preparing to do much the same with one of my LPs. And yes, I will document the process once I decide which way I intend to attempt.
     

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