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Discussion in 'Amp Modeling' started by mdubya, Oct 3, 2017.
Unless I'm missing something, I think it sounded good.
American girl! Nice job
This is with the EXT Sub setting. I am pleased with it.
I am going to continue working on different tones and making things sound as "amp-like" as I can. This is part of the journey. Not only enjoying the AX8, myself, but being able to demonstrate the "in the room" sound that can be expected. Previous attempts to share that tone/sound have left me dissatisfied.
I have had my ups and downs with the QSC K8, too. I want to share as much info as I can about my experience with the AX8, the K8, or whatever, to help others make decisions they will be happy with.
When I was shopping, my BIG complaints were a lack of "in the room" sound demos (particularly ones that sounded good) and a lack of what I consider to be "classic" tones. There's lots of modern/high gain/metal tone demos, lots of very polished, high gloss, produced types of tones, but very few demos that sound like playing a Champ or a Deluxe or an old Marshall, dry or with a little bit of amp like reverb, etc.
I'm told, by someone I totally trust as a great player with a great ear who has played & tested most of this stuff, that the QSC K12 was the one to get. Since we agree on probably 98% of stuff related to Guitars, Amps & Cabs etc., I personally would not look at a the smaller options.
Logically, unless I am missing something here, an 8" Driver makes zero sense to me when coming off 212's, 112's & 412's.
Then there is the XiTone to consider as well.
My 2c FWIW.
I think there's a lot of truth to this. I certainly wouldn't argue it.
I think you have to factor into the equation what you're actually going to be doing.
I'm busy with work right now, so I currently don't have any tours lined up.
The advice I got was to get what I was going to use.
I come home from work later in the evening than most to play and want to crank as loud as I can without shaking window panes or bugging the neighbors. The 8's have been a great solution for me. I like the fullness of the sound I get at the volume level where I get it.
For me the 8's have proven to be the right tool for the job.
Please note when I mention 8 there's always a 's attached.
I can't imagine just having one. The pair is where I get what I want.
XiTone.... The answer is very easy and no struggling is needed. Plus you get the benefit of a real 12 inch speaker.. Not a puny 8
That "puny" 8 can take your face off, Frank...
I guess I'm with pop on this one, a pair of 8's has been more that enough for my needs, and there certainly isn't a lack of bass response ( or this thread wouldn't exist) but I was never playing thru 4x12's or any of that stuff, it's always been open back 1x12 or 2 x 10 cabs in the bear cave...
Its a Puny 8 and everything is relative. Believe me, I have had twin puny 8's here.. You want face off.. Try a XiTone OR an Atomic CLR. Then tell me what you think.
Here is what you will write.
"holy cow.. what a difference."
No, I won't actually, because i'm not buying one but thanks for the advice.
We don't all live in the same world!
What world would that be POP? You took the advice to get involved in modeling. Mostly likely I was instrumental in that.. No?. But you poo poo the advice on probably the best FRFR cab made for the money? Why? And it is not about volume.
Is that it Matt? The money?
No man, I'm just happy with my gear! That's the goal, right?
Well of course.. but constant and prolonged improvement is also a human trait. It's like you went more then half way with Kemper and Helix, then shopped. Of course being happy with ones guitar equipment is one thing.. but when there is improvement to be made aren't you the least bit interested in that?
I'll tell you this. The biggest improvement in guitar sound comes from the speaker system you are listening to. Not what high end modeler one might have. So in effect it's the speaker system that is the weakest link.
Now when speaking of an 8 inch speaker... You can't possibly be hearing all the beautiful low end that a 12 inch coaxial will bring you. The difference is PROFOUND. just ask those that have discovered this first hand.
I hear ya, who knows where GAS will take me... regardless for now I'm happy as a pig in shit so let's get to playing!
There ya go.. At first i thought you hit your head on the Kemper.. hahahahah
Now I can sit this one out.
hahahahaha.. Yeah well... You USE TO BE happy with your old stuff too. Why did you change. Well, that's my point right?
Obviously if you're jamming, playing out or trying to fill a room the nearfield stuff won't do it. But if you're sitting close and want a well balanced sound adecent set of nearfield monitors will be fine. Forme when I can finally spring for the LT, I'll be using 5 inch til.I can spring for at least an Alto. Then I shou,d be able to get some space between me and the speakers at home. CLR, XITONE ETC willbe too much for my purposes for the forseeable future.
I'm jamming with people currently, and 1 K8 does the job ( the other guitarist has a DSL 40, and we can balance out fine). It's a lot of power in a small package!