ES-339 Pro or Wildkat Royale - Which one?

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  1. The Notorious DJ

    The Notorious DJ Member

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    Hi MLP, forgive me if this is done already but I'm new here.

    I am in the market for a new Epi guitar and build my collection along with my LP Standard. I am in love with jazz/blues/swing/vintage rock music and really want a guitar to emulate that tone - the LP is great, but I use that for rock more than anything.

    I've nailed it down to two choices and both have huge potential for my soul.

    Epiphone ES-339 Pro in Vintage Sunburst - $749 AUD
    Epiphone Wildkat Royal in Pearl White - $899 AUD


    I have heard countless demos and held both in my arms but I can't decide which one is worth the value. I can't afford both obviously, but both make my heart sing.

    So guys, help me decide, which would you go for? What genres do they suit best? I know that's generic.
     
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  2. Who

    Who are you? Who who who who.... Premium Member

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    Neither make your heart sing?


    The answer is right there in that statement. "Neither". Move on.

    Of your two choces, I'd get a Gretsch. ;)

    Welcome to the forum!

    Whenever I see AUD prices for guitars, I feel bad for Aussies. You're so much closer to Indonesia/China/Korea than we are. These things should be lass expensive for you! These guitars are made in the same time-zone as you.
     
  3. The Notorious DJ

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    Sorry mate, I said they BOTH make my heart sing.
     
  4. Who

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    Sorry... that was terrible reading comprehension on my part.

    In that case... the Wildkat. Because it looks much cooler. :)
     
  5. Who

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    But the ES-339 Pro probably has better resale value. Which is important.

    For when you pick up a Gretsch. ;)
     
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    Cant say for the wildkat, but can vouch for the 339. I have the vintage sunburst pro model, it's a great guitar.
     
  7. The Notorious DJ

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    You don't know half of it mate. It's an utter joke that our mark-up is that high, but what can you do :D


    A third option is available and it's the versatile and sexy Epiphone Sheraton-II. Problem is it's almost $1,200 AUD.
     
  8. Pop1655

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    Out of those two, 339.
    My pick based on what you're looking for would be a Casino.
     
  9. Who

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    Wow. Brutal. I regularly see the Sheratons sell locally (used) for $400

    https://albany.craigslist.org/msg/5983775341.html

    Of the Epis you mention, I like the Sheraton the most. But I've never played an ES, and I've never owned any of them. I have played several Wildkats. I love the look and feel, but when I hear them, I'm underwhelmed. The pickups seemed dull/boring compared to the rest of the quality.

    I had an Epi Emperor.... it had the best factory Epi sound I have ever heard. It was dreamy. Super nice. I have a hard time believing there is a better guitar available from even Gibson.


    Are the prices due to import tariffs? Seems like I could make a good living just buying things on local CL and shipping to AUS! ;)
     
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    If you haven't owned a guitar with a bigsby setup before spend some time with one BEFORE you buy one!

    The bigsby is a fussy fussy machine that is nothing like other vibrato systems. maybe its comfortable to you...maybe not.
     
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    I like both of those and was doing research. I played both and really liked both. I bought an Epiphone Casino. I guess I like it better, I never played one I don't think even saw one. I did see John Lennon playing one with Clapton and other greats. His wife Yoko was crawling around on the floor under a sheet. John didn't even blink, I would have kicked her off the stage. I realized he had the patience of a saint and hell I need that! It must have been that Casino. Next time someone crawls around under a sheet I am just going to let them find the edge of the stage all on their own.
     
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    I stumbled onto a near new 339 P90 Pro in natural w/case for an unbelievable price. Haven't played the wildcat, but I do love the 339, & the P90's.

    Big LIKE to Kevin Paul's above post! I'm still laughing, but he's probably serious, haha.
     
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    I would echo what Norton said about a bigsby. I bought a Gretsch 5422 in August. I tried to get along with the bigsby, but I ended up trading it in on a new Plustop Pro Les Paul. I lost money on the deal, but I don't mind because I didn't like the Gretsch. I have an Epiphone es339 p90 pro and I love it. Just saying, make sure you like a bigsby(or figure it out quicker than I did).

    Steve
     
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    Thanks to everyone for your responses!

    Interesting, what makes you say Casino?
     
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    I've always said when you're going to get a puppy, don't pick the one you want; let the one who wants you pick you. Same deal sorta. My quest for some sort of jazz piece is unfortunately documented here. It started with GC blowing out the Epi 175s at the beginning of the holidays. The announcement of the Epi Century tagged me in a big way because I had an original '66. The Casino wasn't on my radar. I have a 339 P90 Pro. I've made a few trips now trying to talk myself into the Century or the Epi 175. I've played all the Gretsch, Ibanez, Loar, and a few other contenders in the store along with the Century and the 175. For me, the Casino has won the store trial 3 times now. It wasn't even on the list to try, yet it keeps winning. I can't find a thing wrong with em. I think if you're looking for something different to compliment what you've got, the full hollow takes you there more than the other contenders. Out of the full hollows, the Casino is the one that keeps picking me.
     
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    These guitars are quite different. As others have mentioned there's the Bigsby on the Wildkat Vs the stoptail bridge on the ES339. Also the Wildkat has P90 pickups Vs humbuckers on the ES339. My experience is tuning is always more stable with a stoptail bridge so unless the Bigsby/vibrato is important to you pass on it. Regarding pickups P90s can sound nice but they are more likely to feedback than humbuckers. You can get an idea of the difference by listening to demos on Youtube. I prefer the more feedback proof humbuckers. The ES339 also has better upper fret access. :)
     
  17. jdto

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    I know Who was half-kidding, but do try a Gretsch Electromatic. You should be able to find one in your price range and they are killer guitars. The Blacktop Filtertrons sound really good.
     
  18. The Notorious DJ

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    Man you've really helped me open my eyes. The Casino full hollow is pretty much everything I'm searching for and the tone demonstrations make me heart race. Unfortunately in Australia, no matter the guitar you will be forking out something YUGE for good quality. I have found a Casino for sale at $970 AUD. Sure its alot but the advantages you get from it are something else, I think we have a new front runner.

    The Bigsby would be awesome, but I think that may be for when I'm a bit more pro. I'm only a couple of months old (in guitar playing terms):headbanger:

    Tomorrow I'm off the to the shop to do my final decision on those 3, hopefully I make the right call.
     
  19. Pop1655

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    Like I said, don't pick the guitar. Let the guitar pick you.

    ......and don't listen to us!!! What do we know!:thumb:
     
  20. Cozmik Cowboy

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    The Casino is the same guitar as the Gibson ES-330-TD; I roadied for a dude who had a '59 330 & did sound for one with a '66 casino. I firmly believe that design is the apex of electric guitar development :cheers:

    Of course, I also dig Wildkats, and absolutely love my Sheraton.....

    Making this choice is a good problem to have; have fun with the search!

    And Pop is right - let the guitar pick you.
     

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