Epiphone vs Agile (...of the same price)

Discussion in 'Epiphone Les Pauls' started by SirJackdeFuzz, Jul 13, 2012.

  1. SirJackdeFuzz

    SirJackdeFuzz Senior Member

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    Guys, i am very curious as to what you think about a direct A/B test, when it comes to value for money ?

    Now i know this is an Epipnone Forum, and most of the Epi guys will shout EPIPHONE, but to me, it looks like the Agile (see specs) can give the same priced Epi a massive run for its money.

    WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ?


    Agile AL-3010 Rootbeer Spalted - RondoMusic.com - $429.00

    Epiphone Les Paul PlusTop PRO Electric Guitar Wine Red | Musician's Friend - Sunburst = $429.00




    Root Beer Agile : (nicer colour of the two - imho)


    Solid mahogany (not a multi-ply!) arch top body
    Graph Tech NVS2 Bridge with String Saver saddles
    High quality Spalted Maple Top!
    Triple bound body, and headstock. Single binding on neck.
    Chrome hardware, including die-cast Grover tuners with 18-1 turning ratio for ultra fine tuning (Model 102-18N)
    Two Type V Alnico humbucker pickups for warm, tradional sound
    The AL-3000 now comes with improved wiring (single conductor braided 18 gauge American wire for pickups), improved pots (now higher voltage with brass shafts for reduced noise) and an improved pickup selector switch
    Two volume and two tone controls, plus a three way pickup selector switch
    One piece Mahogany set neck with 13.7" (350mm) radius neck for fast play and adjustable truss rod
    Ebony fretboard with 22 Jumbo Frets and real Abalone Trapezodial inlays
    The AL-3000 features GHS strings installed at the factory and a professionally cut Graph Tech Tusq Nut
    Individually hand filed frets for professional feel and playability
    Width of the neck at the nut: 1 5/8"; at the 21st fret: 2 3/16"
    Neck taper/thickness at the 1st fret: 21.5 mm; at the 12th fret: 23.5mm
    Overall length: 40"; Scale length: 24.7"
    Body thickness: 2" at edge; Width at the widest point: 13"
    Actual Weight is only 10 lbs




    . . . VS . . .



    Epi Plus Top Pro :


    Mahogany body
    Carved flamed maple top
    24.75" Scale set-in mahogany neck
    Rosewood fretboard
    22 Medium jumbo frets
    ProBucker 2 neck humbucker with coil-split
    ProBucker 3 bridge humbucker with coil-split
    LockTone¬ô tune-o-matic bridge
    LockTone¬ô stopbar tailpiece
    Grover tuners


    It just seems to me that when you start compairing the two, the Agile punch way above it's weight !

    What do you say ?
     
  2. warpedsoul

    warpedsoul Senior Member

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    People say the Agile 3000 are really good guitars. And actually, if you would have posted the specs without listing brand, I would choose the Agile. I often look at them to buy one myself, and still want one, but I cant get past the nub of a horn. That kills it for me.

    But with the Agile, it is supposed to have upgraded electronics already, but I don't know how good the pickups are. With the Epiphone, people will recommend that you upgrade the switch and pots when you can.

    In the end, I say get which ever one that you like the best. Both should be fine.
     
  3. ElhazGuy

    ElhazGuy Senior Member

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    Based on my taste (and owning an Epi aswell), I'd choose the Agile.
     
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  4. LP-lover-1976

    LP-lover-1976 Senior Member

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    Yeah, the Agile is a nice guitar. I'm not one to brand hoard, so it's value for $$$ to me. The problem would be brand recognition for beginner guitarists, so they're more than likely to pick Epiphone at that price range.

    In that light, Agile is going for the experienced guitarist that has learned that the best quality doesn't always come with a name. I'd have to hold one and look closely to see any quality differences, but so far, the Agile seems a bit of a cut above. Good post.
     
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  5. Yehoo

    Yehoo Senior Member

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    On paper, both of them are great. Agile looks really good IMO.

    But as always, I'd not buy a guitar without testing it. So if you get the chance and find both in a store, compare them and see which one suits you.

    Hope you make the right choice and be happy with the result. :)
     
  6. chasenblues

    chasenblues Senior Member

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    Only held/played a few epi's in store's while shopping and at that time they were out of my(300-400$) price range. I've had this AL3000 (GoldTop) for 7yrs haven't changed anything on it. And at one time or another i've owned 7-8 Agile's in total.
     
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    If Agile would bring back the Silverburst in the 3000 series and have Ebony with MOP inlays, I'd buy it!
     
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    I believe he had some in stock not too long ago.


    to the OP.. Ive owned many epi's and yeah at first it was brand recognition that brought me there. Now after 15 years I want the best guitar for my money. My 3 agiles (3100, 3100 semi custom, and 3200 semi custom) smoke everything in the epiphone stable and pretty much anything anywhere near their price range. I think most of the newer epi's ive played feel cheap in comparison.
     
  9. paruwi

    paruwi Kraut-Rocker Super Mod Premium Member

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    Agiles don't even look like a Les Paul.......

    and you can't play them before buying

    so NO !
     
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    warpedsoul Senior Member

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    They must have sold out quick! I just sent an email asking for when they will be back in stock and was told by fall.

    I have too many electrics as it is now. I can't see me buying another one.
     
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    lancpudn Senior Member

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    I've never played one of those Agiles, Dont see too many over in the UK but they get good reviews everywhere i look, I'm really liking that Rootbeer Spalted top. Stunning. :thumb:
     
  12. SirJackdeFuzz

    SirJackdeFuzz Senior Member

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    I am not too worried about pick ups, as all my guitars have after market units.

    Not in the market foe an AL-series (just asked the question out of curiosity), but i do have GAS for a Valkyrie - reminds me of Kim Thyail's Guild :slash:


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    Fuelish Senior Member

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    Indeed :cool:
     
  14. nzo

    nzo Senior Member

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    IMO, value for the money- the Agile is generally a better guitar out of the box.
    Excuse me while I go put my flame-suit on.
     
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    SirJackdeFuzz Senior Member

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    Rondo did have a very sexy AL-something last year that i really wanted, but that was last year, and i have not seen that model since :(
    I did save the pic somewhere, i'll see if i can find it. It was a beautifull natural finnish !
    Better looking that ANY Epi i have ever seen !
    Reminded me of a Gibson R8 plain top, i kid you not :slash:
     
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    SirJackdeFuzz Senior Member

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    [​IMG]

    This guitar with a Duncan '59 (b) / A2P (n) = YES PLEASE !!!

    (with an aged nickle cover on the neck - uncovered on the bridge, ala Page)
     
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  18. River

    River Senior Member

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    Do some reading on the Agile forum. Based on that and private chats with some folks here, I would not take my chances on an Agile unless I wanted an affordable configuration I could only get from them.
     
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  19. SirJackdeFuzz

    SirJackdeFuzz Senior Member

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    Just found this . . . i have not looked at it myself yet !


    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnP4GV3Of-g"]Comparison: Agile AL-3100 versus Epiphone Slash Appetite Signature Part 1 - YouTube[/ame]
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PF-BM5sNlg&feature=relmfu[/ame]
     
  20. paruwi

    paruwi Kraut-Rocker Super Mod Premium Member

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    You'll get much more "Love & Understanding" at the Agile forum............

    :cool:
     
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