Epiphone Sheraton with Gibson on Headstock! 1988 model

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  1. brhokla

    brhokla Senior Member

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    I just picked this guitar up from an old man that inherited it from his father back in 1992 when he passed away. It has been in case, under bed for 19 years. Says Epiphone by Gibson on headstock. It's all original even with old blank warranty card. Also, 1988 model. It is in Mint condition and made in Korea. They are very rare and built of very high quality. Anybody know anything about these? 2 sold online in last two years for about $1400 US but were missing parts and had dents, dings. They were well used. This one is mint. I did take the original volume/tone dials off but still have and switched them for some I like better.

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    The "Epiphone By Gibson" logo was used from about 1986 through 1988 on Samick-made Korean Sheratons (and other Epiphone models). The "By Gibson" bit was used for two reasons; 1. To differentiate them from the Japanese-made (by Matsumoku) line of Epiphones that was being made concurrently and 2. to create and exploit the Gibson connection (These were the first Epiphones to be imported by the Henry J regime who had bought Gibson the previous year). In 1988 Matsumoku filed bankruptcy (actually the Singer Sewing Machine Company that was the parent company of Matsumoku filed) and the Japanese-made line was discontinued (though in 1988 Terada/Yamano Music began its own line of Japanese Domestic Market Epiphones that were limited to Japanese distribution). Decent instruments and arguably superior to the current Chinese product but not worth anywhere near $1400 on any day...closer to $500-$600. Samick continued to make Sheratons (and other Epiphones) being joined by other Epiphone contract factories (such as Peerless, Usung, Saein (Shine) et al) about 1994 until Samick faced its own financial difficulties in the early 2000s. Samick regained its financial footing and resumed making guitars in the later 2000s but by this time Epiphone had moved production to the cheaper labor of China. Initially the Samick Sheratons were available in vintage sunburst and natural. In about 1992 there was for a short period of time white, black and cherry red color options available. As I said, these generally go for ~$500-$600 with the Matsumoku Japanese versions from that time period going for ~$850-$900. A common problem is that the bridges on the 1986-1993 models have an odd sized post measurement and replacements aren't readily available. They are not by any stretch "rare" or "valuable" but are still nice guitars and one could do far worse for a guitar...good luck and congratulations.
     
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    I have found some beat up ones that did sell for $450 to $500 but I have also found two that where by no means mint that both sold for over $1400. Both of these were 1988 models with Epiphone by Gibson on the headstock.
     
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    Anyone that paid more than $600 for ANY Korean Sheraton in ANY condition needs to put down the bong and go get their head examined.
     
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    brhokla Senior Member

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    Hey, we all have our opinions and anybody can find a beaten up Korean Sheraton for $500 bucks. That's like saying a Chevy with 190K miles is valued the same as the same model with 8K miles. You pay for condition and miles...

    Yea, it would be better to buy a China made one for the same money. or Better yet, spend $699 on a new China made one than an better quality Korean one. Makes no sense whatsoever. The China made Sheratons used run $450 - $550 on CL all the time. I know, I'm online looking all the time. The Guitar Buyers Guide shows 1990 - 1994 Korean Sheratons valued at $1000? So the 1986-1988 with the Gibson on the headstock is worth less?
     
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    Whatever.
     
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    When left handed Casinos (MIK) come up on ebay, they often times go for well over a thousand bucks. Or, at least they did when I was looking at them a couple years back. I thought the same thing; the buyers need their head examined.
     
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    here Gregzy, one on ebay right now that is nowhere near the condition of mine, missing serial number and no case, and cracks in finish and dings.... It's got 40 hours left and 15 bidding. Currently at $560 + Shipping with time to go. So, is mine in mint condition, with original warranty card blank and hardshell case worth less?

    Got to be smoking crack to buy this one right now for $590 bucks if it ended right now.

    Like I said, two sold for over $1400 that were not nearly as nice.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/EPIPHONE-BY...INTAGE-JAPAN-SET-NECK-GUITAR-MIJ/300679453352
     
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    paruwi Kraut-Rocker Super Mod Premium Member

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    The seller is lying, it is NOT made in Japan, btw :D
     
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    Thats a nice find there friend. How much did you pay for it? Or did the old man give it to you as a gift?
     
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    I like mine (bought brand new in 1988). Everything on mine (except the stop-piece) has been changed.

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    What's that bar on the stoptail?
     
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    B-bender :hmm:
     
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    I'll go look that up! Thanks :)
     
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    what a freaking cool arse guitar!!! The b-bender is bomb!
     
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    Nice body on it. I hate the headstock tho. I think its one of the ugliest around. It's like a chick with a slamming body but a face that needs a paper bag.
     
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    UMMM, vintage guitars compared to vintage cars is kinda really stupid.
     
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    so is necroposting......:D
     
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    Epiphone
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    What a cluster**** of a headstock logo... :facepalm:
     

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