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Discussion in 'The Backstage' started by andy007, Dec 6, 2017.
He plays a guitar like he runs a company. ...into the ground.
He's still a better player than FennRx.
He'd be nuts to post too much here. It would undoubtedly turn into a pissing match and just create more fodder to use as ammo against the company.
If, years ago, he saw the value of this medium and had his PR team dedicate some resources to MLP (establish basic ROE and such and have the account managed by a real lover of guitars) they could have turned it into a decent two-way street. I think he only posted a few times and it went sideways. Smart decision to hang it up.
Well crap! I saw that he has kevinpaul on his friends list.
I thought "Hey, they could form a band called Delusion Squared."
There is already a band by that name....dangit!
So after seeing that, the answer is no he can not!....
Well played! +1
I don't even know how well or not Mr Fenn plays, but the setup was excellent!
The other forum was bought and paid for by Gibson. Gibson used that forum to obtain important info regarding their product and demographics. And then like many corporations they saw it as an opportunity to control the narrative. Get the owners and big players on that forum their own CC's and then we all can play nice, and eliminate any constructive criticism, which is what helped Gibson the most... and it was free. No historic would ever sound as good as a vintage guitar, unless it was endorsed by the right guy.
Look how many changes have resulted in comments over the years by members of both these forums.
JoeB likes the other forum because he knows there are many vintage guitar owners there, and he can shop with his fame and pocketbook. And lets face it, he is not treated like "one of the guys". Every member wants to befriend his popularity thinking they will become his internet buddy. Joe's presence also elevates that forum because he is very likeable and popular. But lets call it what it is.
For years I always thought the other forum was like a biker bar, keep your mouth shut, don't piss off the elders, and you WILL learn something. There are members there that have mountains of experience and are great sources of info. Then it changed. Criticism there will be met with an evil eye, and you can expect a rash of fanboy responses, even though we all obviously love the guitars.
Lets face it, this forum is considered the B team, even though its probably more in line with the mindset of the older LP forum. I believe Gibson watches both, while controlling the narrative, and observing the B team for a more honest opinion of there products.
Don't get me wrong, there are some great guys on the other forum, as well as here.
I read a comment here recently that stated Henry was running Gibson into the ground. I have to disagree. Restructuring debt has long been a policy of so many major companies to keep them afloat, not sink their ship. Gibson has managed to sell a ton of Historics and variations of it, that they flooded their own market, and are limiting some areas of production. We may not like less guitars, but the strategy is a good one. They sell most of the higher priced guitars to an aging demographic, and they see that coming to an end. Just like Harley Davidson, they are going to move away from those old geezers that got them there, and cater to a different group of customers. We may not like it, but its not a bad business platform to stay relevant.
Here is the best thing that has happened regarding their marketing position. As consumers we are seeing a great number of used LP's that are priced very fairly compared to years past. I am seeing R8's for 2500, R7's for 2200, R9's for 3200.
Great prices for newbies and others to enter into the market. So its all good.
Henry is not a player. He's a businessman. And if I had made poor acquisition decisions I would have the constipation face, too.
Leo Fender couldn't.
And that is most likely one of the few things he and Henry have in common
I thought it was the only thing?
Yeah, but at least he didn't pretend that he could.
But, from all witness accounts he was one hell of a trumpet player.
I was polite
I guess owning a guitar factory counts too, but that's about it.
my dear god....
what a fucking cacophony.....
Oh my God! He reeks!
Okay, who left the fucking rotary saw running at full RPM?