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Discussion in 'Gibson Les Pauls' started by chadinIndy, Jan 3, 2018.
They need to nix the MAP pricing mandate.
He’s lining his pockets before it folds.
In more ways than anyone will ever know. That is the first mandate of the Corporate America Boys Club. "Fund your exit so whatever happens won't financially affect you".
I went on a new Gibson buying binge in 2017 at ridiculously cheap prices, and am glad I did.
SG Standards run between $700-850 give or take. Les Paul traditionals and Standards can be had for $1500-1800.
Pre2013 R7/R8s can be had for under $2400.
Gibsons have always been expensive. How much lower should they be?
Yup. BTW, anyone notice that a Squier classic vibe Strat now costs around $400 and a Fender MiM standard goes for $600? That's price gouging, right there.
I think many times the overall perception is because of those crazy MAP they advert on the Gibson pages, but no one is paying that money MSRP...and most of the time I'm buying at MRPM, which usually happen in either user market of non vintage or with NOS leftovers from previous years. I honestly find those to be the right prices, most of the time.
In general it's just about waiting the right moment to buy and hold on brand new fresh productions.
It's not that the price for these guitars you mentioned should be lower.
It's the quality of the guitar being produced for that price.
... and keeping the shareholders happy.
Is Gibson not publicly traded? If not, forgive my ignorance ...
Quality is fine. My used 2017 sg is perfect. 50% off what people pay for new. My 2017 V is fine.
Stop buying from MF and the QC issues disappear
If Gibson reduce their prices they would sell a sh!t load more guitars...... possible making enough money to get them out of the sh!t
Got my first electric, a MiM Standard Strat, in 1998 for $279. My first Gibbo LP in 2009 for $1,900, which was a steal because it was a previous year model. I think MAP was 2299 back then. I really wanted a figured top ES-335. I bit the proverbial bullet and got one in 2010 for 2299, because I knew they were just going to keep going up. MAP on those is something like $4,300 now. Another thing is the woods, I knew that the traditional woods were going to be more scarce & expensive as time went by. Sad thing - the same complaints about quality today were being said when I bought mine almost 8-9 yrs ago.
This true and heard 20+ years ago as well.