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Discussion in 'Vintage Les Pauls' started by jeggz, Aug 31, 2017.
Is that an SG? Have you ever seen it on a Les Paul?
No..have bever seen one..yet..could be though!
This is a SG Special. Has to be post '65 due to TRC.
I un-Grovered my 56 TV. I also wanted a little less weight on the headstock... Plus I just like the original look.
I used that kit from Ebay. The wooden cylinders that are drilled out & the bushings that fit & look pretty close to the originals. I glued them in.
Well... the Grover holes were not neatly or evenly drilled. I didn't realize this would be such an issue until after it was done.
A set of 3 on a plate Klusons dropped right in... but because of the imprecise fit...some of those tuners rub & fit really tight. It affects tuning stability.
I haven't had a chance...but my plan is to dowel & redrill. It think that is the best way.
Who sells em?
Here they are.
I have never changed tuners on a guitar before. Can you actually feel it when playing the guitar ? I guess, balance wise ? Considering it's so little of a difference.
I'm genuinely curious about this.
Yeah man, if you use slick guitar straps removing grovers can really reduce neck dive
There they are! I couldn't find them for some reason.
I guess we'll see how these work.
I'm gonna use that Stewmac fish glue for the first time as well.
It's the norm, rather than the exception I have seen that "less than professional" tools and installation techniques were used to mount Grovers then..
Yeah, that's exactly what I was talking about.
My special needs these . Doesn't look like he ships to Canada...
Took off the Grovers, looked like Howe opened the holes with a blunt screwdriver.
Grovers went back on.
Is what it is.
Yep. That's what my 56 was like.
Unless those holes were enlarged perfectly straight with a drill press... those little wooden cylinders won't do it.
They are a great idea though.
The holes were almost oval.
On my '64 Sg Jr, you could tell where the electric drill twisted when it poked through...also ovaling the holes out making it egg shape..thank gawd the washer covered that mess..MAYBE that's why Grover used to send 'em out with the almost nickel sized washers? They KNEW folks would use what ever was on hand to install..and the washer would close any gap and make for a tidy appearance afterward..
BUT..I have used a electric hand drill to install a set (NON vintage, of course..I'm no dummy), and the secret is to use reverse speed..and makes for much cleaner, straight holes, but is more time consuming.