Complete EPI custom setup

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  1. Roman

    Roman Master Luthier V.I.P. V.I.P. Member

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    Here we have a an ordinary Epiphone LP custom. It is complete with normal problems people encounter and take for granted. Fret buzz, plastic nut, high action, too much relief in the neck, etc.

    Well we are going to put some love into it. Why? Well, it is a guitar and the owner loves it. An Epiphone can play as well as any other instrument.

    Here we go;

    BTW, excuse some of the picture quality.

    here it is, high action and all.

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    The first thing is to remove the stings and take off the mounting ring of the neck pickup. I want the pickup to drop to the bottom of the route.

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    Next we tape it all up. this prevents scratching and damage, not to mention keeping the steel wool particles away from the pickup.

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    Now we take the nut off. First I score a line through the finish. we do not want the nut to take finish along with it when we remove it.

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    I will tap at the nut with something hard and a hammer. my preferred tool for the tapping is a fret file.

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    Now the nut is off.

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    More to come

    Roman
     
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    Thanks Roman. This string of lessons will be very helpful to many.

    gibiphone

    just north of the mexican line
     
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    Roman Master Luthier V.I.P. V.I.P. Member

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    You are welcome. I don't want epi guys to feel left out.:)
     
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    awesome. thanks for posting this. can't wait to see the end results of the setup.
     
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    Very good of you to do this Roman, maybe flick could make it a sticky?:thumb:
     
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    Now that the nut is off, I adjust the neck. What I am looking for is dead straight.
    This will reveal all the neck and fret imperfections.

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    Out comes my trusty fret leveling file. The file does not lie. It is straight and level and will seek out and destroy all high frets.

    We take all the high tops off.

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    The file also discovers loose frets. On a lot of import guitars, the frets may "look" like they are seated well, but are loose. the file makes a different "chatter noise" when it hits loose frets.

    I mark these with a black sharpie so I know which ones they are.

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    More to come.

    Roman
     
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    This thread is awesome, very helpful! :)
     
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    Holy crap, look at that poor gutted thing!

    Hey, thanks for putting this up though! Do you think you could put all your instructions and images on the first post?
     
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    Now, all the frets I have marked with the sharpie get the super glue treatment.

    I run a bead of ordinary superglue down each side of the loose fret and the wicking action causes it to go under and into the fret slot.

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    With a paper towel i wipe the excess off.
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    Before any super glue is fully hard and cured I scrape the fingerboard with a straight razor blade.

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    More to come.
    Roman
     
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    Hectgore Senior Member

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    Yay!So im guessing the you received the bone nut that is big enough for my guitar?Do you know when i can pick it up?:thumb:
    Thanks for posting this Roman im sure itll be of much help to the fellow Epi users!
     
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    Roman Master Luthier V.I.P. V.I.P. Member

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    :laugh2: too late.
     
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    Roman Master Luthier V.I.P. V.I.P. Member

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    Hi Hector, you can pick her up tommorrow:)
     
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    like the idea of the thread but i`m guessing this isn`t some i`ll be doing myself ,especially as i`ve just bought a epi les paul custom,is this a high expense job at a local shop?
     
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    Sweet.I may also bring the carvin but nothing is happening to that one i just need the knobs tightened a bit.Nothing big i just dont have the tool at home and i need to buy it soon lol.I may also get it analyzed to see if it needs anything big on setup(like the epi) if it does ill bring it in some other time.:)

    Yeah man i hear ya,the job depends on the tech shouldnt be more than 150 imo,depends on the tech.Oh and the new bone nut is around 50 bucks to install.
     
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    i am with you RFR.. i am a complete newbie luthier, but i bought an G400 recently which had broken truss rod, unlevelled frets, the lot.
    I managed tosort all of this out myself !
    I removed the truss rod, brazed the broken end, and leveled all the high frets, using a sharp edge to cover three frets at a time, and find the high ones..which i filed..

    i wouldnt hesitate a second to do it on a more expensive axe.
     
  17. Roman

    Roman Master Luthier V.I.P. V.I.P. Member

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    This isn't so much a "do it your self" thread, as it is to give you some idea as to what can be done and how it is done.

    I am sure some guys will DIY, but for the most part, the thread is informative.

    If and when you go to a luthier, you will have a bit more knowledge and understanding.:)
     
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    Oh yeah Roman i may have to bring you a couple more people who need some work on there in the future.:thumb:
    My cousin who just started playing guitar REALLY needs a setup,he has a schecter damien and while a great guitar it has the action VERY high,Think as high as my epi.So its just a matter of him getting the money for the basic setup.
    Theres also my friend who says his guitars fine but it may need a setup to get it feeling even better!:D
     
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    My problem is i`m new to playing and having bought a new epi lp custom i look at some of the threads and all i see is change this /change that and wonder if i`ll even notice the difference, will i?
     
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