Capo on a Historic Question.....?

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  1. Sct13

    Sct13 Premium Member

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    Does it work?

    OK....need more info?

    In band I mostly play bass, but since I'm a guitar player ....for real....I requested to do some guitar work...So I called out some Stones tunes and they are both in Open "G". One with a Capo on the 4th fret. The other without a capo.

    So here is the question....Why is the Capoed tuning slightly sharper? I need to de- sharpen the open song .....The intonation is very good in standard tuning....is the obvious answer to readjust the intonation in Open G ? I haven't checked it....

    Or is this a Les Paul thing? The Danelectro doesn't do this to the same degree.

    For those that might be curious the songs are; Tumbilin Dice and Can't You Hear me Knocking...
     
  2. Chadd

    Chadd Senior Member

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    I have that issue on most guitars and just plan for it when using a capo.
     
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  3. GitFiddle

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    What kind of capo are you using? One thing I found out a while back, if you walk into a GC or Sam Ash and buy a Kyser capo off the rack, it will be the model made for acoustic guitars. If you look closely at all the available models of Kyser capos, there are separate models for acoustic and electric but they do not specify it anywhere on the packaging. You just have to get the right model number. When I ordered the model specifically made for electrics my tuning problems went away.
     
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    The harder the capo "squeezes", the sharper the notes. jumbo frets aggravate this even more.
     
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    Frets....Its an R8 ....OK at least I can try different things....
     
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    The guitar tone in Can't You Hear Me Knocking is simply badass. Love that song.
     
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  7. Sct13

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    Yea....I'm no where near it!

    What's great about that riff is its so improvised....don't even bother trying to replicate it...just play it how you feel it...
     
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    Yeah. I hear you. I don't have a clue how to get that tone. I can't even describe it. I just know I love it.
     
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    This guy with his Tele is close. I think Keith uses a Tele also.


     
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    Sounds like he's using a fuzz pedal. Who knows though.
     
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    "Crème de la crème" : use a (1) 12" radius capo with a (2) minimum pressure on a (3)perfectly set guitar.
    (1) 12" is the radius of the LP fretboard and you want all of the 6 strings to be applied the same pressure
    (2) If the pressure is too strong you go higher in pitch than expected. The neck of your Historic is "fat" right? It means the pressure of your capo will be higher than on a slimmer neck (your Danelectro for instance?). You might look for a capo with an adjustable pressure.
    (3) Is your guitar well set? Do you have the same pitch on open string and on the 12th?

    You could buy a Thalia capo (man they spam me everyday) but personally, I do just fine with a regular Dunlop trigger...

    EDIT: The string gauge can also emphasizes the capo sharpening effect.
     
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    Thank you !

    I'll try that!
     
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    I used to nail this song on guitar hero
     
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    Vic, all good input so far. Just comparing the Danelectro capoed to the LP capoed: is the Danelectro short scale like the LP? If not, that could account for the differences you are experiencing between the two electric guitars. :hmm:
     
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    All good advice...thanx everyone.....I found one I'm going to order .... by D'addario has a screw adjust for tension. The one I have acts like a clamp and may be for a 12 string...

    I thought about the scale length, but I think its a combination of tall frets, fat neck and the way the bridge is set up as opposed to the Danelectro that has the simpler bridge. I'll experiment more....I have plenty of guitars
     

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