Can't see marker when crowning frets

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  1. andy007

    andy007 Senior Member

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    I'm getting frustrated, I used a black Sharpie permanent marker to mark the frets before crowning. As soon as the marker dries I can't see it anymore. If I move back and forth looking at the fret I can see the light reflecting off the fret surface and can "kind of" tell where I'm at with the filing. I have good lighting. Maybe my eyes are worse than I thought. Is there a particular marker someone can recommend for this purpose? These frets are the Jescar gold frets. That black Sharpie just disappears. Arrrgh! I'm stopping for today.
     
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    i use one of the larger markers. we use to call them magic markers, but i'm sure theres a zillion different brands out there. may be a difference in the ink they use. try a different brand. the ones i use are jet black and i have no problem seeing mine....it's the lack of talent i have trouble with.
     
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    I never use a marker. I have a light situated at just the right angle that I can see the glow of the scratches as the line gets finer and finer and then disappears. To me it's way more accurate than a sharpei.
     
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    Ripthorn Senior Member

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    If you feel the need to have something on there, use Dykem. It's made for machining work and can go on very dark, if you want. Just be careful, it's strong stuff, but comes off well with alcohol.
     
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    Skyjerk Meatbomb Silver Supporter

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    What could be more accurate than a sharpei?

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    Go over it multiple times. Apply once...let dry for a few seconds. Apply again...let dry for a few seconds. Repeat as needed.
     
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    I think the problem may be my light source. I'm using a halogen light. I went back later and used a lamp with an incandescent light bulb and the black mark was easier to see but not great. When I watched the Stumac video (on using the Z-File, which I have) the video is as clear as night and day and you can easily see the marker. With my lighting, the mark just "disappears."
     
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    This is what I use. When he barks I know the fret is done.
     
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    well andy, as time goes by you'll find yourself using dimmer lights as the norm, cause you'll get like me and realize that good lighting shows up screw ups much easier. i always show my guitars at night. :)
     
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    That made my day!
     
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    i don't know what that is but i like it
     
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    Who I'm back. Back in the New York groove.

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    There are billions of them in your eyelashes and eyelids.














    Not really, but reading that sentence made your eyes feel weird, didn't it? ;)
     
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    Skyjerk Meatbomb Silver Supporter

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    Youre thinking of dust mites.

    The photo is actually of a Tardigrade, also known as a water bear. They dont live on people.

    Edited to add: Looks like you were there already. I didnt see your "not really" link initially :)
     
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    you guys have too much time on your hands. you need to get back to building guitars
     
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    Pitter patter!
     
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    Glad its not just me then, I tried with a sharpie but soon realised that the filing marks from leveling make a big contrast with those from crowning provided the light is right as they are at right angles to each other. Not sure if using a sharpie is just over thinking it.
     
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    you young punks just wait a few years til you get like this crotchety old fart. i'm still trying to figure out how to get some flourescent black markers, and a black light. i need all the help i can get. oh, and be careful when freddy gives advice---we all see the kind of work he does, right? wink, wink.
     

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