CA and Painters Tape Trick not working! (Solved!)

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  1. Luthi3rz

    Luthi3rz Member

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    Got a problem here guys.
    Every time I try and make double sided tape using Super Glue and
    that Blue painters Tape from Duck it doesn't work for me!

    I have tried thin, Medium, Thick and Gel.
    Like I said I am using that Blue Painter Tape Duck brand name.

    Is there some kind of trick to getting it to work I don't know about?
    Do you ABSOLUTELY have to use Accelerator?
    And how the hell do you press the tape down with out lifting it up cause
    the sticky side is up!!! :confused:

    I'm honestly irritated. Cause I know you guys use this trick all the time.


    I followed this video here.
     
  2. Colnago1

    Colnago1 Senior Member

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    The sticky sides face away from each other, you’re glueing the non sticky sides together. One piece of tape sticks to the beam, the other piece of tape sticks to the sandpaper. Then you glue the sandpaper to the beam.
    I’m not sure what you’re having a hard time with.
     
  3. warprider

    warprider Senior Member

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    Sorry I couldn't be assed to sit through that video.

    Is it a levelling beam? Why not use spray adhesive?
     
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    drmmrr55 Senior Member

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    Put the tape on the beam like normal, sticky side down. THEN, put glue on top of the tape, sorta like homemade double sided tape. Then just apply sandpaper to the glue. Viola! That video needs to get to the point instead of all that yammering. apologies to the guy who made the vid...
     
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  5. w666

    w666 Senior Member

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    Have you tried double sided tape? Seems a lot easier...
     
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  6. Freddy G

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    seems so.....but it's not. By the time it takes me to lift up a corner of the backing on double sided tape (some are easier than others) I can lay down two strips of masking tape, a few drops of glue and hey presto...

    Seriously....it's a lot faster for me. And the added bonus is that when I go to pull it apart it's easy. Double sided tape can be tenacious as hell....sometimes pulling wood fibres....
     
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  7. LtDave32

    LtDave32 Desert Star Guitars Super Mod Premium Member MLP Vendor

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    Guys, I've had great success with Duck brand double-sided tape.

    The film picks up easily off a corner, and it sticks great. But best of all, it comes off when you're done.

    If one uses that double-sided "carpet tape" with the strong fibers running through it, it's a total bear to deal with. Not so with Duck brand double-sided.

    Ps, squirt some naptha/lighter fluid on and around the edges of the tape when you're done. Comes right off.

    I use a flat piece of wood with a good file for a fret leveler, secured with Duck brand DS tape. Every damn time.
     
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  8. Luthi3rz

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    Ok guys I got it sorted out.

    In the Interest of helping people. Read below.


    Out of five different kinds of tape I have, only this one worked.

    3m Scotch brand general purpose #2020

    The 4 others that didn't work for me.

    IPG brown Packaging Tape = Failed
    3m Scotch Brand #2050 White Painters Tape = Failed
    3m Scotch Brand #233+ Green = Failed
    Duck Brand Blue Painters Tape #13932/2002 = Failed

    So it turns out that the cheapest, general, thin, stickiest tape you can get
    from like Lowe's or Home Depot with any old Super Glue works great at
    making double sided tape.

    :thumb:
     
  9. w666

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    I use WOW Tape brand double side tape...I get it from a machinist's supply shop (http://www.actioncnc.com/wowtape.htm). Like Dave says above, easy to peel, sticks great, easy to remove. The skill is in knowing how much tape to use so that the work is secure, but is easily removed. There are lots of double sided tapes on the market, the vast majority of which are unsuited for wordwork. Try this tape, you'll like it!
     
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  10. Luthi3rz

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    Thanks. I'll check it out.
     
  11. cmjohnson

    cmjohnson Senior Member

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    Viola? I thought we're making guitars!

    Maybe you meant "Voila", which is a French word that loosely translates as "Taa-daa!" or "There ya go!".
     
  12. Skyjerk

    Skyjerk Meatbomb Silver Supporter

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    I'm confused by the statement "making double sided tape"

    The trick for is not making double sided tape.

    You just use masking tape a CA to stick templates on.

    I'm not sure I understand how this could fail to work. You stick one piece of tape on the wood, stick another piece on the template opposing the first piece. Rub them down real good so they are well stuck. Put a thin line of CA on one piece of tape and press the template firmly on the workpiece.

    Let it set for a few minutes. Done

    It literally works every time regardless of what kind of Masking tape or CA I use, but I prefer slightly thicker CA.

    When you say "making double sided" tape I'm envisioning you trying to glue two pieces of tape together, and then trying to use it like double sided tape.
     
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    Yeah, spelling was not my strong suit I guess, all my years, I always read it as "viola".....LOL
     
  14. Luthi3rz

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    That's correct.
    I get what you are saying and I now see why it wasn't working for me. Thanks for pointing that out.
     
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    I use Frog Tape - similar to painters tape. Usually green in color, comes in a plastic case.Various stickiness. Available at Lowes and Home Depot.
     
  16. pshupe

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    A vacuum pump works better! ;-)

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    No more tape! ;-)

    Cheers Peter.
     
  17. Skyjerk

    Skyjerk Meatbomb Silver Supporter

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    These are great for holding guitar bodies and such so you can work on them, but how does one use a vacuum pump to attach a template to a piece of wood?
     
  18. pshupe

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    I guess I should have said it solves "MY" problems with holding down things. Sorry it was a bit of a joke that wasn't very well described. This is the unit I just purchased for my new CNC machine. Let's just not do a cost analysis on it as I could probably buy CA glue and painters tape for everyone on the forum for a year for what this thing cost.

    In theory you could use this with a vacuum table and MDF templates without a CNC. The beauty is that if you take about 1/16" off each side of your mdf template it becomes so porous that the air sucks through it and will hold down the wood. Then you could use a hand router and a bottom bearing bit. Again it is way more than a little cost prohibitive but you can use it for other things like vacuum forming.

    Cheers Peter.
     

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