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Discussion in 'The Backstage' started by stonevibe, Nov 22, 2017.
Because Pinatas are fun.
In case the OP hasn't noticed, Henry went "bye, bye" a LONG time ago.
It don't cost but a nickel extra to go first class!
Selling excess in BOTH locations...
He might be referring to the Gulch area warehouse in Nashville that they unloaded.
I didn't realize the Nashville properties had been for sale for quite a while. I only read about the Memphis news earlier this year. I just found that article minutes ago myself and missed it on my first search. Learn something new every day.
I think he was just confused personally. That was just an under-utilized warehouse. Not a " huge too big Nashville factory". They've been dumping bits and pieces of Nashville for years, which makes sense considering the premium they can ask. But the Nashville factory isn't one of them.
The 2018 lineup is absolutely full of vintage style guitars.
I don't like Henry J at all.
Recently I was pissed when he let the 3 guys from the Custom Shop go. The Custom Shop is/was still making great classic styled Gibson guitars. Granted the signatures and the collectors choice and the Murphy aged stuff was crazily priced, a Standard Historic is still an amazing guitar and a cut above a USA Standard. And for those who could get one, a True Historic.
It is true they still make Trads the old way. QC can be hit or miss though.
The ugliest one I think is the new Standard HP in that crappy red burst with the direct mount pickups, no pick guard, and no selector ring. And that weird nut, PCB electronics, and stupid coil splits and knobs. That's not a Les Paul to me. They got it right in 1959, why change it? Traditional/classic guitars are a good thing. Some things don't need improving, at all.
That's why there's the Traditional line. The HP line is not traditional so lamenting why they're not traditional is a bit silly. They're not supposed to be traditional. If you want traditional you get a TRADITIONAL or you get a CS Historic.
Personally I think that red/black cherry Studio they made for 2017 is sexy as hell. I like that one a lot.
Sadly it's no longer available but hopefully I can find one used one day when I can afford it.
That's my biggest gripe with Gibson is they do cool stuff for ONE YEAR,..then the next year everything changes. Some consistency would be nice.
Because not everyone wants a 59 Les Paul. Different strokes and all that.
but see that's what I was saying earlier, people who say, "Why don't they do it the old way?"
....they DO! Just get one of those. It's not Either/Or,...they make BOTH.
The thing is people want a CS Historic at Tradtional USA prices. And,...yeah that's not gonna happen.
You either get a USA Trad,...or you cry on the internet that Gibson sucks.
Anyone notice Epiphone has stepped it up a notch or two ?
True. My LP is close to a 60 Standard. It isn't but it has the feel of one, and that's what I was looking for.
But a few weeks ago I tried out a few 2015s and realized that I liked the neck. It wasn't like a 60's slim but I mostly liked the extra width and asymmetrical carve. Crazy to think that I could like both and see someone not looking for an old guitar liking a modern neck.
If anything Gibson does need to give new models a few seasons to catch on. When Studios came out I can't think of anyone who thought they were a "real Les Paul", but now they're a fully accepted, and desired, guitar. Go figure.
Yeah but at some point it becomes something other than a real Les Paul. The Standard HP I mentioned should get it's own model name. It's not a Les Paul, I'm sorry. I agree to disagree.
I like other Les Pauls than a 59, I like the even older ones than 59 that had soap bars and I like classic Customs with humbuckers or P90s.
But that Standard HP is an abomination. TEHO.
it does have it's own model name, HP (High Performance) i.e., not Traditional.
"A Les Paul" has been a different thing made different ways with different shapes, woods, pickups, hardware, etc. for the past 60 years. Every year it's different somehow.
if it's made by Gibson and it says Les Paul on it it's a, "Real" Les Paul.
if you want a traditional Les Paul you get a Traditional Les Paul, or a CS Historic,,...or you get an actual vintage Les Paul.
These things exist. No one's saying you can't have one, but don't look at an HP Les Paul and get mad it's not a traditional Les Paul when it's not supposed to be a Traditional Les Paul,..if it were it would be in the Trad line and not the HP line.
People like you, (and me) are exactly why the Trad line exists, because we want things to be more like the older style guitars.
We might as well go to Guitar Center and start pointing at Stratocasters going, "That's the ugliest gdamn Telecaster I've ever seen!!"
....because that's about how much sense that makes.
That poor damn horse.
I think Epi has been up several notches for a good while...
Love my Casino and my Steinberger V bass built by Epiphone is badass perfect...
If an Epiphone can be called a Les Paul than anything can be called a Les Paul. The HP line are as much a Les Paul as Studios, Recordings and Fadeds and anything else Gibson made that didn't match the traditional spec of a Les Paul.
Ever play a 52? I have, now that's an abomination.