Burst Replica: Pete's next build.

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  1. Greco

    Greco Senior Member

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    Well what can I say? I'm at it again! Despite my better judgement. The good news is I have been upgraded from a damp back garden in England to a swanky garage in Australia. The bad news is it is like 4 million degrees centigrade in the garage most days! :eek:

    I had said I wan't going to build anything again for a while but sometimes doing builds you get offered things that you can't refuse. As luck would have it I got offered some really great wood from a couple of friends and I just could not say no. Any aussies know the right wood for a replica is basically unobtainable in Australia so this will likely be the last replica that I get a chance to make. Hopefully I can document some of the more practical problems I face, as we all already know how to make a perfect replica right? :hmm:

    The brief is simple: build a burst. The methods and how I get there might not be so simple, some might even say unconventional, but we'll see! All I have in terms of power tools is:

    1. A plunge Router (with 1/2" & 1/4" collets)
    2. A drill

    ...and that's all I intend to use other than some cheap hand tools and a lot of elbow grease. This is a step down from last time when I had a band saw and drill press you use, but the goal is still to make the most accurate replica possible. So this is another one for all the backyard builders out there.

    First thing to do is take stock of what I already have in terms of usable parts and tools. I already have all the imperial drill and router bits that I'll need to build a "vintage correct" replica, so that's a big part of the headache out the way. The rest of the spending for tools will be minimum. So that leaves wood, finishing supplies, glues, and of course parts!

    I tend to get all the costs down in a spreadsheet so I know what I'm in for in terms of budget.

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    Grey highlight is what I have, yellow highlight what I have bought so far. I don't include shipping as I just don't keep track of it. I've also found it's almost impossible to budget with parts, so I'll leave that blank for now. The goal is to get the best parts period, and that costs a lot. They'll come in time when money permits. Anyway I'll worry about them once the building is done for the most part. From the budget it's easy to progress to a build plan. I'm always flexible though and do things as and when I can.

    Like most I have a day job. Lately I only have a few hours each weekend to work when my son is napping, so I'm using that time to build (as quietly as possible) and once he wakes up, it's tools down. So I have to roll with the punches. I might have half an hour after he wakes up to do some routing or loud work. I like to try and show that even if you have no tools, no wood shop, little experience and no time you can still build a great replica! it might be slow but I will get there! :fingersx:

    Pete
     
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    Greco Senior Member

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    Wood:

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  3. buyusfear

    buyusfear V.I.P. Member

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    And you wanted a build thread outta me. Lol
    I'm looking forward to seeing this one unfold. Especially with the limited resources. Almost makes it more appealing, like watching a guy build a survival cabin with a pocket knife and a box off matches.

    Best of luck!
     
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  4. Greco

    Greco Senior Member

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    Some more wood:

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    You can see here I had already started marking out the fret slots with a pencil and sharp blade. All you need to do first is find or make one straight edge on your blank then mark the frets out at 90 degrees to this.

    Rule of 18s. I use this amazing piece of technology to keep track of the fret spacing :cool::

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    Then cut the fret slots to depth. They will be cut again after radiusing the board, so they are curved. I just use my radius block as a guide to get them cut straight downwards.

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  5. Greco

    Greco Senior Member

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    Hey I still want that build thread out of you! Yours will be like Megan Fox, mine is more like waking up with a fat chick and a hangover :thumb:
     
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  6. Greco

    Greco Senior Member

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    I mark the centre line on my neck blank and routed the truss rod channel. Also routed the wire channel in the body blank. All you need to do this is some sort of straight guide and a pattern bit. Old bits of wood will do as a guide, you just need something straight.

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  7. ARandall

    ARandall Senior Member

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    Is that wood from Fiji Mahogany Blanks?? - Looks like one of his neck blanks. It almost looks like honduran mahogany too. FMB had one or two old HM blanks around - I scored one. And there are a couple of places that have a board or two of brazilian RW about - they don't shout about it though.

    And I spot a VERY familiar looking router - I have that model too.
     
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    Greco Senior Member

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    Yeah its one of Pete's neck blanks. Very good stuff, he definitely is one of the good guys. Hey did you ever get that stamp I sent you? Hope it came in handy.
     
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    It actually is Honduran Mahogany. The British (bless them all) had the foresight to plant Honduran in Fiji in the '50's.........& it grew like crazy. Now we get Fijian Honduran Mahogany. Better yet it is renewable & grows fairly quickly.

    Having handled it personally I think it is a great Mahogany option for Guitars.

    :cheers:
     
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    Pete's been out of his blanks for quite a while - I've been on his list for about 6 months, but he had one older one which had been returned. Not sure if it was a Fiji grown mahogany, or a honduran grown one. He was selling it as Genuine Honduran anyhow.

    Greco - Thanks again for getting that stamp kit to me. It arrived while I was overseas on a MTB riding trip, so was unable to convey my thanks when it arrived - my apologies there. I'm almost about to use it on a LP kit I am in the middle of finishing - the stazon ink is on its way as we speak.
     
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    Greco Senior Member

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    Yeah its a good router and very robust, but ive since bought a cheap ryobi with a half inch collet. Will always need the bigger longer bits for building a replica. My other one got damaged when our other garage flooded. For a bloody desert there sure is a lot of rain over here! :laugh2: So im onto router number 3 :D
     
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    Greco Senior Member

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    While i'm at it it'd be rude of me not to thank Barnaby for some serious inspiration. I never had a chance to follow or comment on his threads while i was doing my builds and everything else but i went back and read them all a few months ago. That guys an inspiration. I never thought i'd own things like an oil stone but stealth building is the order of the day. Thanks dude. :thumb:
     
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    Oh he's more than an inspiration - off the board he's a Diamond Geezer. Bit rough around the edges mind. Polishes up fine, though. ;)
     
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    Don't thank me - thank all of those people who provided guys like me inspiration in the first place. I just swooped in and stole all the credit at the end. This forum is brilliant! Anyway, you're doing a fantastic job with this one. Can't wait to see it come together. :dude:
     
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    Barnaby Premium Member

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    Aw, shucks. Now I regret shagging your missus while you were on that business trip.

    Not too much, mind you. Even for an Essex lass, she was a rare goer. :thumb:
     
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  16. Greco

    Greco Senior Member

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    Do you think a flying V lute would work?
     
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    She thanks you for the STD. Never seen one so large. Hand Tool, that is... :naughty:


    And now back to Pete's build...
     
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  18. Greco

    Greco Senior Member

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    Hey! That was my idea! :mad2:
     
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    The way I see it was it's about time for another Greco build. Carry on.
     
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    Greco Senior Member

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    Had some presents waiting for me this morning! :D

    Correct hook-up wire:

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    ...and hide glue, fish glue, and binding tape. Whoo!:

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    While we're on the subject of things we'll need. We'll be needing some of these:

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    Some of these:

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    ...and definitely these:

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