Broken neck or Finish Crack ?

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  1. Prometheus

    Prometheus Senior Member

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    Is this a gibson or is it an epi?

    I've seen crack like this on an epi, but not on a gibson, hence the question
     
  2. lespaultobi

    lespaultobi Member

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    Its a gibson Les paul trad 2013 with real Beefy neck
     
  3. Prometheus

    Prometheus Senior Member

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    I'm so sorry to hear that, man, I love 2013 and 2014

    Well I suggest you hitting up a luthier asap then
     
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  4. bluesondoor

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    Crack. If you have to ask, almost always a true break.
     
  5. kakerlak

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    It's a break from either impact or transfer of energy/motion in the direction of headstock-backwards, rather than headstock-forwards. String tension will tend to keep the break closed and it'll usually run from around the nut, down into the neck, just like OP's pic. Think of grabbing the top of a headstock and bending it backwards until something breaks and you can visualize a crack running like OP's. Visualize the opposite and you'd imagine the more typical headstock break that starts at the back of the headstock, just above the nut and runs at an angle, into the wood of the headstock -- just the opposite of OP's.
     
  6. lespaultobi

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    How can a luthier fix it ? Ans how much will this cost . ? Im in Germany
     
  7. Cjsinla

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    If it’s a crack, they can force glue into it. Should not cost much. Repairing the finish is more labor intensive and will cost more.
     
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    Titebond tone. Nice! I had one that I thought sounded better after a crack and repair. Must have been the titebond tone.
     
  9. Left Paw

    Left Paw Senior Member

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    I know its just syntax, but this is a neck crack and not a 'break.' People are using the words interchangeably but this is incorrect. A headstock break is when there is a complete separation from the neck and headstock. In this case, there is a crack in the neck near the nut. Crack, not break.
     
  10. bluesondoor

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    Fixing the finish to make it "invisible" will be really costly and not at all worth it. To fix the crack itself and preserve the instrument, the luthier will use glue to bond the wood back in place. Guitar necks have a lot of tension at all times so it is best to ensure it's done right the first time or else it can get nasty. If you aren't familiar with this sort of thing, take it to a professional to make sure you can play this guitar a long time to come.
     
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    endial Senior Member

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    ^^THIS.
     
  12. lespaultobi

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    So guys i went to the luthier he will fix it . It will Take 2 or 3 weeks until i brought her home . But anyway better than a damaged Guitar
     
  13. bluesondoor

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    Great news. Keep us posted. I'm sure it will be fine.
     
  14. GibsonKramer

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    I have Schaller on almost every one of my guitars. Not a single issue.

    The oldest is 33 years old. So are the strap locks.
     
  15. gnappi

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    When I used to gig I used only all leather cowhide straps (still do) AND I sewed them tightly onto the strap buttons with catgut. No way, no how they'd come off. I even went so far once to reinforce the strap ends by taking one to a shoe maker and having him sew a herringbone pattern into the strap ends before sewing them on.
     
  16. lespaultobi

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    So shes back from the luthier ... nice Work its almost invinceble 1521474043972344866507.jpg
     

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    Nice work. :cheers:
     
  18. Latearrival

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    Schallers are great, as long as they're fitted correctly, and checked now and again. In my experience, only 2 things can go wrong with them:

    1) You are a complete idiot, and fit the cups so that they face outwards from the strap, instead of inwards (like I did once!.....)

    2) The nuts holding them onto the strap aren't tight enough, and they turn around. It usually helps to enlarge the hold in the strap with a leather punch before fitting, and tighten the nuts tight with a spanner....
     
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  19. Scream And Fly

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    You’re kidding right? I’m curious to understand exactly why the best strap lock in the industry can not be trusted. If installed correctly, it’s nearly impossible to disengage the guitar from the strap connection. And I almost LOL’d at the idea that a rubber washer is considered to be more trustworthy.
     
  20. RayTorvalds

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    I don't gig but I use both. Neither the strap with the Schallers nor the one with the Grolsch washers is going anywhere unless you want them to.
    I do prefer the Schallers, because it's kind of a pita to get the strap with the Grolsch washers off of the guitar.
     

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