Bridge and tailpiece question for '93-'98 Reissue owners

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  1. bosnialove

    bosnialove Senior Member

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    I got my guitar back from a set up and noticed that the underside of the ABR1 says Pat. No. with a number, however the underside of the tailpiece says Made In Germany.

    I think the guitar tech has accidently swapped my bridge for an other one, because as far as I know, Historics in the '90ies used Schaller hardware and therefore it hould say Made In Germany. Also, as far as I know, Pat. No. hardware has been used in the '80ies and not in the '90ies.

    For all '93 - '98 Reissue owners who know their bridge and tailpiece are the ones that originally came on the guitar: what is written on the underside of your hardware?
     
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    Sct13 Gold Supporter Premium Member

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    NOT made in Germany....
     
  3. bosnialove

    bosnialove Senior Member

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    What do you mean with that?
     
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    Sct13 Gold Supporter Premium Member

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    The tail piece should not be made in Germany if it is supposed to be from Gibson...
     
  5. d1m1

    d1m1 Senior Member

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    it was no schaller hardware back then. i owned couple 93-94 historics and all of them had standard hardware gibson used in the 80s.

    what happend to your 93 gt replica? i remember a luthier in croatia started making it for you. is it ready yet?
     
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  6. bosnialove

    bosnialove Senior Member

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    I have found someone else for that job and it is almost ready for paint.

    It is a '59 Replica with the only changes being 1. my name on the headstock in stead of Gibson and 2. two added granite strips/rods in the neck next to the truss rod that continue into the headstock for better strength of the neck/headstock area.

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    If I'm right the 90s stop bar was brass, if that helps.
     
  8. Dilver

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    My 93 LP Studio Lite came with a bridge that as stamped Made In Germany. Granted, it was black hardware, and it was on a Studio. But Gibson has used hardware made in Germany in the past. A pic of the stamp would help to identify it.
     
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    Yes but not on historics. The question was about historics.
     
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    Not sure if brass, but it wasn't lightweight.
     
  11. bosnialove

    bosnialove Senior Member

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    OKay, so we can be shure the tailpiece was not made from aliminium.

    I'll take some pics at the next string change.
     
  12. bosnialove

    bosnialove Senior Member

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    I went back to the luthier and got the original ABR-1 one back.


    I have done research lately on the type of ABR-1 and tailpiece that came on several low Serial number Historics and I can conclude the following.

    On several fully stock and untouched low serial number 1993 Historics I found:

    - a nickel wired ABR-1 bridge that says "ABR-1" on the bottom, without the mark after the 1 like the ABR-1's from the '60s;

    - a nickel heavy tailpiece that says "Made In Germany" on the bottom;

    - nickel push in bushing tuners that say "Gibson Deluxe" on the casing;

    - two of those small orange caps that say "MP 203M 100V" on them;

    - two '90s '57 Classic pickups with a small black sticker that say "Patent Applied For" on the bottom.
     
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    Did your luthier explain why he swapped your hardware out and kept your original stuff. Seems odd and a little dodgy to me.
     
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    Doesnt seem dodgy to me because the bridge he put on my guitar has a bigger value than the original bridge on my guitar. :p guess its just mistake. Never had any problems with him and he is well known here in the Netherlands.
     

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