The number of threads started by newbs seeking tips on buying their first amp is staggering. Many seem to believe they need a tube amp. Well meaning (and VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE) fellow members buy into this and recommend amps that MAY have 2 good sounds... a clean and a drive. He MAY be able to make it sound good without getting the police called for violating local sound ordinances. And he may end up hating the amp. Wouldn't be better to have a single amp that lets you experience the drive sounds of a Vox, Mesa or JCM800? The cleans of a Twin, JTM or a Mark IV? Usually for much less money?? With dirt boxes, delays, chorus, reverbs, etc. already built in? Sh!t, get the modelling amp to determine which tube amp you want is even a good strategy. Not the other way around.