Back to Building! Let's See What I Remember ;)

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  1. Skyjerk

    Skyjerk Meatbomb Silver Supporter

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    For my money, I ALWAYS glue the fretboard on before carving. Usually the curve of the neck goes slightly past the glue joint so I have a smooth curve all the way around as opposed to a smooth carve that ends at the glue joint, followed by a fretboard edge thats flat and perpendicular to the fretboard top.

    Not sure how one can visualize a graceful carve without the whole neck/fretboard being there....
     
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    dickjonesify Senior Member

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    Had 10 minutes to myself this morning. Jeesh.

    I hung a new light over my other workbench because more light is betterer :) and finally mounted my parrot vise for the first time.

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  3. dickjonesify

    dickjonesify Senior Member

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    Did some sanding and scraping today! Very therapeutic.

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    Then cleaned up with some Naptha

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  4. dickjonesify

    dickjonesify Senior Member

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    Ok. Getting serious over here.

    I still have the same can of hide glue!

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    Yum!
    I decided to mask off the areas I don't want glue. Not sure if this is advisable or not :hmm: Either way, I'll wipe off as much squeeze out while it's still wet as I can.

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    Last time, I didn't "cook" it quite right and had to work super fast. This time, I'm following this video, which makes the glue look much more inviting.



    Here we go!

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    Had to find a jar first, though........

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    :lol:
     
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    dickjonesify Senior Member

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    Well shoot. My glue doesn’t look like Dan E’s. It jellied up and got stuff pretty quick. Maybe it’s just cooler here. The jar should be air tight... pretty sure.

    It should revive when I do the crock pot / double boiler trick tomorrow.
     
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    dickjonesify Senior Member

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    Ok. It’s nice and thin and runny after some crock pot time. It seems I have more open time than last time.

    Pics coming soon but I have a hide glue questions for @Freddy G or any other experts: I got the first one clamped. Got some drippage on both sides, which I take as a good sign. By the time I went to wipe off the excess squeeze out, it was jelly.

    I assume I’m fine because it was thin enough to drip in the first place. Does that sound right?
     
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  7. dickjonesify

    dickjonesify Senior Member

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    I don't need anyone to comment. Or even look!! Hahaha.
    I've got more updates and you're gonna like 'em!

    Got some glue cooked

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    I didn't get pics during but here are the necks clamped up. I already wiped away some squeeze out at this point but you can see some driblets on the tape. It was pretty runny. I think that's good.

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    Before I could glue the necks to the bodies, I had to make sure I got my wiring holes taken care of.

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    Started with a little scraping. Ended up going to the belt sander ,though.

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    I put the neck on and traced the excess at the heel

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    Then it went to the band saw.

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    Not perfect but it'll sand a whole lot easier now.

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  8. Freddy G

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    probably OK....that is if it was actually squeeze out from clamping and not drips from application overload.

    How much time between the glue coming out of the pot and fully clamped?
     
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    dickjonesify Senior Member

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    dickjonesify Senior Member

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    Under a minute for sure. Probably 45 seconds. Following that Stewmac video, it was definitely thinner than the last (and only other) time I did hide glue.
     
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    should be fine!
     
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    yeh, i always glue my fretboards down while the neck is flat on the bottom. sure helps the clamping process. I too also precarve the vast majority of the neck prior to glueing. I leave the cutaway in the body a tad full till after i set the neck, then work it down to the neck.

    looking great, dude.
     
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    dickjonesify Senior Member

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    Thanks FDP. Glad to see you’re still around here!

    Ya, doing it in this order is new on me. I do like the fretboard going on pre-carving. As far as glueing the neck to the body pre-carving... we’ll see :shock:
     
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    Got the glue scraped up and the excess mahogany trimmed back :cool:

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    Did a little more scraping on the binding as well

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    Ok. Carving. I marked out the necks for the proper thickness on both sides and took it to the belt sander to get it down to the line. Sorry, no pics of the belt sanding.

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    Then I marked out some center lines and half lines.

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    I started cutting the corners off with this beast but it's way too dull hahaha. I'll need to figure out how to sharpen it next time.

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    So, files and rasps and paper then. I still have my cheap 4-in-1 rasp that I bought for the first build. I also got a a huge, very coarse rasp for cheap at a flea market that can really move some mahogany!

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    Monster!

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    Going well

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    Splitting the difference

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    Working that heel

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    Then I did the shoe shine move with some 100 grit paper then a quick block sand with 200
    Productive afternoon indeed :dude:



    Hopefully I get the other neck carved later tonight but possibly tomorrow night.
     
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    dickjonesify Senior Member

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    Got about 30 minutes downstairs tonight! I marked the Junior’s neck for thickness and took it to the belt sander. Got one pic this time. Getting right up on my line.

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    Buckled up!

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    Sometimes measuring for center involves too many maths :) I'm sure I'm not the only one who does this trick to find center without thinking.

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    Now you have two marks that are close together. The center of that is center. I just eyeball that.

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    This is all kind of feel for me. I mark a 1/4" up from the fretboard at the 17th fret...

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    and an 1/8" at the 1st fret...

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    and draw a line between. That helps with the fact that the neck is slimmer on this end. Also, this instead of centered should give me more of a D shape, rather than a straight C.

    These are just freehanded. Also be feel and what I think looks cool. Probably not dead on G-style

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    Hopefully carving tomorrow night.
     
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    dickjonesify Senior Member

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    Also :love:

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    dickjonesify Senior Member

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    @nuance97, it's nice to have you around :dude:

    Someday, others will see this thread, too :iough:
     
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    I’m a fan...what can I say... :D
     
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    Looking good man.
    These getting color or a natural finish?
     
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