Are Momose Les Pauls a thing of the past?

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  1. free713

    free713 Senior Member

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    Hi guys
    Am I the only one who has noticed that there hasn't been a new Momose LP for sale in ages? Have they stopped making them and why? Crews on the other hand are making insane amounts of les pauls these days...
     
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    I think they make them in batches, if they can sell them they will make them. Perhaps the issue is selling them outside of Japan. I got my two so I am OK.
     
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    Got two as well...I would think they were in demand as they dont even come up for sale on yahoo japan
     
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    bluesriffdev Senior Member

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    Seem to be pretty much the same in spec to the mid-high tier Crews guitars but nearly any Momose I see is different to the last, whereas the Crews just look like a stock-standard Les Paul. I'm aware Deviser owns Bacchus and Momose, but do they own Crews as well?
     
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    no...but a couple of years ago they made a lot of the crews guitars. now i think Terada makes all crews
     
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    They are order guitars with a 6/8 month build time. Same with the Bacchus hand made. Probably that the don’t come up for sale that often indicates they are a very well made guitar...
     
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    Definitely in Demand, even the Bacchus Duke and Master series are very popular, we just ordered both Bacchus and Momose today and it’s confirmed that it’s 6-8 months built time from ordered guitars.
    Funny I ordered a Momose Telecaster from the months build sheet, by the time I emailed about the colour options another Shop in Japan had ordered the guitar!!, got to be quick...
     
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    bluesriffdev Senior Member

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    Do they give the option of having an open book headstock or one like the have in your profile picture? Or for all non-Japanese orders do they give you that headstock by default?

    The one in your profile picture is a custom order Momose yeah? I seem to recall seeing it another thread.
     
  11. MT-Guitars

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    They are Japanese Market only. Except my personal guitars for private use..
    That is an Original series not the Vintage series, same with the Bacchus Hand Made Strats and Telecaster. Probably why the changed the Dukes headstock for international market..
     
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    Though if Gibson goes under will that change??.
     
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    Probably not. Someone will buy it after it goes into receivership; the brand loyalty is too strong to simply let a company like that fade into obscurity. Maybe briefly, perhaps?

    What a shame they don't sell them to domestic companies with the open book headstock. I think it'd be interesting to see if it's actually at all enforceable, seeing as Gibson lost against the guitar brand Vintage very recently for a similar reason. I think the argument Gibson has made is that the open-book headstock is so synonymous with their brand that it's instant brand recognition, and thus trademark. But I think that because there's been so many people to copy it without legal issue over the years, it'd be pretty hard to enforce.

    I think once one Japanese company ponies up the courage to do it and potentially face litigation, the rest will follow suit.
     
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    My understanding is that the Momose with the White wood in the headstock are supposed to be for Export only. Others with the standard head stock are for Internal Japan sale only. Although Momose did offer to make me a custom one with the standard ( non white headstock)
     
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    Gibson aren’t to bad, Fender on the other hand get very nasty. I know someone who settled out of court for near €50000 for building 5 guitars with the trademarked headstock. I always put in my adds “personal import” of Japanese Market only Guitars.
     
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    Fender at least allows licensing of parts. Warmoth and All Parts are allowed to manufacture Fender licensed necks and bodies, and as they're licensed to do that, I assume they've either paid a one-off fee or pay a royalty per product produced. It surprises me that someone building 5 guitars with that headstock design would be approached by Fender for that given just how much appearance stratocaster-type designs get in western culture, be it through games, toys or cartoons. I mean, even if everyday people don't know the name, they're certainly familiar with the shape.
     
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    Fender threaten this Australian Guitar Company even with this Headstock shape...
     
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