Anyone ever see this thing?

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  1. Crotch

    Crotch Support MLP Veterans & Vendors Platinum Supporter Premium Member

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    I recall reading about it. Really like it. Hopefully it stays the way it is.
     
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    Really doesn't do anything for me. :dunno: I would hope no one would pay $85k to restore what is essentially a usable refinished body and a nice case. But stranger things have happened I bet. Still...someone could love it just the way it is I guess.
     
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    That's a lovely top!!
     
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    Marc Bolin........get it on. ;)

    :cheers2:
     
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    I've got to believe the $85K price is a 'I wonder if there are any hard-core Amazing Rhythm Ace fans still around?' price. Folks who would buy it for what it's done, and who owned it, the same way most of us would pay more for 'Blackie' then we would for a brand new Fender.


    Larry
     
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    I actually quite like it. The top looks great and the inlays aren't too bad... The headstock binding is really the only downside to my eye. If it played well (and I had the cash, of course), I think I'd get it. Am I nuts?
     
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    I saw and handled this guitar a lot at the Fort Worth (formerly Arlington) guitar show this past October. It's actually a very cool guitar, with a ridiculously cool top. These pics really don't do the top justice. I considered making a low ball offer on it, but decided not to. Bottom line...it's a very cool, interesting guitar, but one that's really hard to put a value on because of all the work that's been done to it, along with its history.


    Frank
     
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    Hmm.....the "Byrd" burst....it should be MINE!
     
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    Interesting story, but 85 grand. Ouch!
    Here's the youtube video mentioned is the article.

     
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    I wonder if they repurposed an early '70s SG Custom fretboard -- that would explain the narrow nut width. Really pretty top!
     
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    Frank I bet you could have an honest conversation on it. Joe (the owner) is actually a pretty nice guy. I've never bought a guitar from him but he helped me source an old vintage fender case for a guitar I had and some other items. (some of which he didn't make any money on even)
     
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    If that guitar had original parts it would be a bargain.
     
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    I always called this 58 "The Keckler Burst". But I seem to remember it having a neck with double parallel inlays (like on a ES-175) and the headstock with a "My Gibson" pearl inlay. The head also had an abalone flowerpot inlay. Anyone else remember this guitar? Used to have a pic but cant find it right now. Does anyone have that pic and can post it? Maybe it is a different 58 then the one discussed in this thread? I do remember the "Keckler Burst" as being a 58.
     
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    It's an interesting question. As far as original burst bodies go, it's got a pretty damned strong (and interesting!) top and it's been refinished in a proper-looking color. I wonder what the right thing to do with this would be. You could replace the ears on either side of the headstock, redo the overlay and probably get close to the right/original headstock shape. You could replace the fretboard with a proper-looking one, but what about the width issue?

    I wonder how much width you could recover in trying to feather the bottom edge of the binding into the existing neck with a wider board. Unfortunately, it looks like the edge of the wood as it transitions to the binding is pretty perpendicular to the fretboard, so, in order to roll out wider, with the transition occuring in the binding area, you'd actually be looking at sanding some more of the neck away to get a smooth overall shape. Somebody really slick could even mill the edges of the board on an angle, so that proper thin binding could be used to do all this.
     
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    Here’s my photo from Fort Worth:

    Btw, it was very nice meeting and chatting with you Frank.
    Al
     
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    I sure would not give 85.000 for it
     
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    Pretty cool LP.
    Really narrow nut width though !
     
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    I knew I recognized the guitar from somewhere. I saw in TX as well. Very cool top.

    I actually don't think the price is that far out of line. $20-25k in parts, find a donor board and a donor headstock veneer, and you have a solid refinned burst which would be priced in the 100-120 range. The math seems to work (roughly).
     
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    I'd think that if the neck hadn't been narrowed down so far. I think this is probably most sensibly a re-neck candidate, especially since the original S/N stamp is gone from the refin. I think there are a few ways you could build back the lost width and/or cheat some (but probably not all) from the replacement fretboard, but it'd be a lot of work, and might look a little funky upon close inspection. So, re-neck it, keep the old neck as-is to accompany the guitar as part of its provenance and as a reinstall/rework option for any future owner.

    What's a re-necked, refinished '58 worth with a strong top, either with its current hardware or correct vintage replacements?
     

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