Anyone else dislike wah pedals?

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  1. easton55

    easton55 Member

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    I realize I'm likely in a small group here, but more and more I'm starting to absolutely hate these things. I've listened to so many players of all calibers, absolutely amaze me with their ability and sound, then you see them step ahead and you know what's coming. Just ruins for me what they're doing. I don't begrudge anyone who likes them, or likes others that use them, but was just wondering if I'm alone in my unlike of them, lol. They can have their place in a tune, but they get so over-used now it kills a lot of songs for me. I'd much rather hear the players skill shine through.
     
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  2. Marshall & Moonshine

    Marshall & Moonshine Senior Member

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    Like any effect, knowing when not to use it is just as important as knowing how to use it.
    Most people who don't like wah pedals just don't know how to use them.
    If this is you (you don't have to admit it to me;)), get one and practice with it.
    They're pretty expressive, used correctly.
    Or maybe you just ****in hate wah pedals.
    Whatever.
    :)
     
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    Ph03n1x Senior Member

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    I don't know. I think they can sound dated.
    But same goes for other pedals as well.
     
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    kakao Senior Member

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    These can be very powerful in a skillful hands ..
     
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  5. TheDevice

    TheDevice Senior Member

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    I really dislike Kirk Hammet's.
     
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    firesgt911 Senior Member

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    I've never really been wow'd by a wah. I've had some nice ones over the years, but could never really find a place for it in the music I play.
     
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    Tweaker Senior Member

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    I hate 'em, too. Never liked the sound. The ONLY time I've liked the effect is in the beginning of Voodoo Child.
     
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  8. mmd

    mmd Senior Member

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    I enjoy having one, but will find that IF I keep it in the effect chain I tend to rely on it too much. So, in that regard, I look at it as the "evil spice". I stopped using it live, and when I am recording leads it comes out as a last resort, unless the song calls for it....
     
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    kboman Senior Member

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    I can think of two players so far that have made good use of wah sounds and Hendrix is not one of them. I totally agree it's such a disappointing thing when a solo gets ruined by yet another arbitrary wahnk fest. Blech!
     
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    rjshare Senior Member

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    I feel the same way about high gain pedals.
     
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  11. sonar

    sonar Senior Member

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    For my own enjoyment I love Wah. I can pretend I'm Hendrix & Page, or a cocked Wah position with some fuzz on a lead run... makes me happy.

    It's an effect that easily impresses non-guitarists, but obviously not players like us.

    In bands I haven't used one for years.
     
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    5F6-A Senior Member

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    I have two: Roger Mayer Red Lion ande old JEN Cry Baby Super. Both great yet easy to overuse. Also not that many players bond with it or learn how to use it.
     
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  13. switchback

    switchback Senior Member

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    Absolutely love them, I have a Morley Bad Horsie 2 :) I find a lot of inspiration using one. Less is more, but in the right hands ( or should I say Feet) it s a formidable pedal!
     
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    MUSTANGCAT Senior Member

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    You don't have to like them. I think they are the goods. Shaft, Voodoo Chile, Tales of brave Ulysses, White Room, countless other tunes made good use of a wah wahs. I like the sound of the vintage yellow Fasel myself.
     
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  15. Mindfrigg

    Mindfrigg Senior Member

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    What's not to like? An active tone control you can use as you play? You don't have to use the 'wah' effect. You can cock it to a lead tone, back off the treble for rhythms, all while leaving your hands free. Or anything in between. Think Mick Ronson, not Kirk Hammett.

    Sloooow sweep. Gives sonic complexity to your riffs and rhythms.
     
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  16. QReuCk

    QReuCk Senior Member

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    A wah is the first pedal I ever bought. I still own this Crybaby I bought in the 20th century, but it is no longer at home. It's actually the pedal I tend to let friends take home for "just play it a bit to see if you want one". I think my bandmate has had it at his home for like 1 year now. He still never used it at band practice, although he uses (sparingly) and autowha sometimes.
    As a listener I get the usage in some funky rythms and occasionally like it (love the wha rythms in Ugly kid joe's same side from the album america's least wanted - that tune is pretty much why I bought a wha in the first place). But unless they perfectly fit the tune, I tend to think they are border line sounding like the typical soundtrack from 70's porn movies (maybe I should have mentionned 70's police fictional TV shows instead, but that's the same idea) when used rythmically, and when used as an active tone control, either the effect in far too much over the top, or it is done right and you could get close anyway with pinched harmonics and pick location along the string.
    As for the lead usage (Enter Sandman anyone? - or even that over tune in America's least wanted where the solo uses the wha) I just think it sounds like a poor man's disguise for an overwise not very inspired solo. Just my opinion. Others may disagree.

    At the end of the day, I play only almost exclusively my own (or my band's) music, never managed to write anything where a wha would fit nicely, and it is easier for me to change the tone of an individual note with where and how I pick the string than using a wha, at least for what I want to ear.

    I wouldn't say I totally hate wha's, they are just not for me as a player. And I kind of don't think a wha was the better choice for approx 80% of the times I heard an wha in a song - but I do think the same about most modulation effects.
     
  17. Mindfrigg

    Mindfrigg Senior Member

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    I use an EV-5 into devices that respond to either it or midi control. I can set the depth of the effect. It ain't rocket science dudes. Plus I can program which parameter it effects in some cases. Pitch bends, overdrive, reverb depth...whatever.


    Wait. Now it's starting to sound like rocket science. :shock:
     
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    Mindfrigg Senior Member

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    Seriously? :shock:


    Um. Forgive me for prying...but who are the other two? :hmm:
     
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    switchback Senior Member

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    :laugh2: Your up Kb :naughty: This should be good :D
     
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    I like them, Im not the best at it...sometimes I feel I can't get a good WAH out of my guitar but I just blame my kids for tinkering with my amp... :D I like Slash's and Wylde's wah...I don't mind Hammet's wah he is just an overkill, not bad wah just too much IMHO.
     

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