Actual CITES and Cross Border Info Canada/US Shipping

Discussion in 'Gibson Les Pauls' started by yamariv, Nov 23, 2017.

  1. Nippon

    Nippon You looking at me? Premium Member

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    Mar 5, 2016
    Probably because it was a duty free sale, which would connect them to an international transaction. Don't know.

  2. yamariv

    yamariv Senior Member

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    Jul 26, 2015
    Ahh I see, must have been that..

  3. JohnInNJ

    JohnInNJ Member

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    And I bet the Chinese are still importing rosewood and laughing their butts off at CITES. Hey, if they kill elephants to make trinkets out of their tusks and kill tigers to make voodoo medicine...what's a tree to them?
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  4. Howard2k

    Howard2k Premium Member

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    Nov 30, 2009
    Yes, because the border guards can tell the difference :)
    I think the bigger problem is that they can’t tell.

    But so far, it seems like it’s working ok.

  5. Bill Hicklin

    Bill Hicklin Senior Member

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    Nov 3, 2014
    But rarely bother; they just seize on suspicion. Even though most are dunderheads who can't tell MOP from abalone.

    And once it's seized, the burden is on *you* to prove your instrument is free of contraband material, a process which is both lengthy and likely will cost you more than the value of the instrument.

    In other words, comply with the bastards' stupid paperwork and fees, because they have the power to f*ck up your life.

  6. sk8rat

    sk8rat Senior Member

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    Sep 28, 2014
    just skimmed the new reverb terms and conditions and there is a clause on cites regulations


  7. Lemonburst R8

    Lemonburst R8 Junior Member

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    Thanks for the great info, always interested in CITIES stuff. I was wondering if they specially train border agents to identify brazillian rosewood as a species onto itself. If you've been around the stuff long enough you can easily spot the brazzy. I have a 62 strat that there is no problem seeing the difference but to the regular joe, I'm not so sure. Maybe we should start a thead with pics of nice dark luscious oily Brazillian rosewood fingerboards, anybody up for it? Anyway great info from our friends from the great white north. RORO That's Roger Over Roger Out for you non military types.
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  8. KenG

    KenG Senior Member

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    Sep 13, 2009
    Guitars manufactured in the USA are duty free under NAFTA (I bought two LPs this way) There is a brokers fee to fill out the declaration form if shipped ($80 USPS Ground but i"ve heard if you pay airfreight ~$150 brokers fees are waived) and if you hand carry you can get the form and fill them out yourself.
    Canada will tax the value of the guitar for GST and if applicable PST (no PST here in Alberta).
    So right now the kicker is the exchange rate. When I bought my 2010 R7 and 2012 R8 from Eddies the exchange was USD = CAD and I paid 100 shipping plus 80 brokers fees plus GST.
    L&M was selling an R7 for 3600 CAD plus GST (~ 3800 CAD). I paid $2850 shipped plus 80 broker fees plus GST (142). This saved me over $500 on one purchase. When I bought the 2012 I paid $100 more due to a price increase by Gibson (L&Ms prices had also gone up) so I still saved over $500.
    Our dollar will shine again one day but if you wanted to buy used the USA is still a better bargain than here in Canada, people ask ridiculous prices for used gear because they overpaid in the first place.
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