A "real" 1968 Gibson SG Standard (modified)

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  1. SoloDallas

    SoloDallas Senior Member

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    Why did I say real? Because most advertised SGs - as 1968 SGs - aren't 1968 ones.
    I have no idea - or maybe, I do - why most vendors state their late '60s SG is a 1968 Standard (when most of the times, it isn't), but fact is, many currently for sale late '60s Gibson SG standards are not 1968 ones.

    Probably it relates to what Gruhn used to state about late '60s Gibson production guitars, with year 1968 being the last, good year for collectible, quality instruments.

    Whatever the truth is about this, I (finally) put my hands onto a 1968 guitar.
    HEavily modified prior to my purchase therefore being the "classic" issue guitar allowing me to bring the price down (3K USD).
    Here's a couple images for you:

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    I put a few more on my site, it's free for you to register.
    I'm beginning to write articles on my and stars' guitars, right now there's a couple of articles on Angus Young SGs, same stuff that you saw me post here.
    Here it is:

    1968 Gibson SG Standard “Blackie”

    If you do register, I hope you enjoy your stay at SoloDallas' :D

    Thanks for reading,

    SD :)
     
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    I must say that I love playing my 67; However, I have a 71 special and standard, a 72 standard a 75 standard and a 78. The 75 sounds awesome with the gum drops, but I think over all... The 72 plays the best. VERY thin neck. I bought that one many years ago. It was sold to me as a 71 by a very reputiable dealer, but over the years I am convinced it is a 72...
     
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    [​IMG] another real 68 100% original
     
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    VERY curious about how you dated yours.

    My giveaway - I learnt - was no serial numbers (though it matches '68) no pot codes, but the neck joint AND the cutaway carvings.
    I have looked into oh so many advertised/claimed '68s that weren't.

    Here's my neck joint. Of the 10 or more I have of around the same period, this one and my 1967 have the exact same neck joint:

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    serial number and unbroken solder joints pot codes....etc
     
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    I understand. Do you recognize the neck joint?
    May you please post your neck joint? Extremely curious. Trying to build a good knowledge for myself.
     
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    Interesting neck joint. I had to run out to grab my 67. Looks different than mine...
     
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    Mine is not beveled like that. I wish I knew how to attach photos here. I have a high def camera and have not shot any pics yet really. I do have one shot on my website. I have used pot codes, serial number and provenance to date mine..
     
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    same neck joint, guitar isn't here right now
     
  13. SoloDallas

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    PLEASE please do post pics. It's easy. I can tell you how to. Even a cell phone picture will do, just interested in seeing what the different '67/'68 neck joint looks like. You and burst might have the same one. This is what I'm onto right now: at the time (1968) there were two different Gibson Plants for construction of these. I believe some came out one way, others another way. I would love to determine which is which .

    Please? :D

    EDIT: Hang on, I'm going to post for you guys what a different neck joint looks like. This one is supposedly another '68. but I believe it's a '69. Pot codes are '68, but many features on this guitar aren't.

    Please give me a few minutes to shoot a pic and post it. Thanks.
     
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    One day I'll own a vintage SG and it's going to be Solo's fault.:thumb:
     
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    :D

    Okay, here's "it":

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    I have another SG, a sure 1969 with this same exact joint.

    Comments?
     
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    Okay. At least yours confirms my thoughts.
     
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    If I remember correclty I believe my pot codes were 66. I am pretty anal about this stuff. I would not have bought it as a 67. I would have checked really good. That happened with the 72 I bought. Verdict was quick pot code check and the "goof rings" that gave away the 72 later on to me././ Damn it you guys. It has been a really long time since I have opened this stuff up... I just put the thing away... I am CERTAIN that mine is a 67. The head stock is a bit different too. The tips of the book are not as pronounced.. Could be just a bit more wear though...
     
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    Mine does not look anything like that either, more like the other, but NOT beveled or ROUNDED toward the top
     
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    So yours could even be an earlier joint type. Don't worry, don't sweat it.
    Posting here my '67 for reference (SAME neck joint as the black - refinished - '68 above).
    What I'd like you to look at, is the cutaway carvings.
    Basically, the earlier you go in time, the deeper the carvings are.
    '67 and '68s are almost identical, basing it on my research so far.
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    This looks almost exactly like mine.. The Lower portion of the G is wider on the line too. I think I see this in the logo here. MY logo is MUCH different to me than many of the others I see. I got to post pics... I just read the rest of your post. Yes the cuttaways are different too. They seem more angled/deep..
     

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