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Discussion in 'Other Single-Cuts' started by reborn old, Nov 14, 2011.
Cuz SL's and LP's are supposed to be a secret...shhhhh.....
I don't think that a lot of guys have those SL and LP models around here....for some reason, I dunno.
I agree - I have a Studio Lord, Lord Player, and an SG. All excellent guitars. Probably geared more toward the student market as with most Yamaha products ('cept for the SG) and built like tanks, They usually don't have specs like FEB, lacquer finish... but great nonetheless and are player guitars. My bolt-on neck SL has surprisingly good tone and sustain and these can be had for relative pennies - one of the best values around. I put GFS pups in the SL and I play it all the time because I don't worry about it getting beat up.
Anyway, Yamaha info is easy to find here. Just run it through your favorite translation program.
Hey thanks for that. I'm all over the Yamaha Les Paul style guitars as I scored an old SG700 last week. And Gammy, I know I'm slutting this pic around! What can I say? Hey, are pickguards easy to find for these in Japan?
Great idea to put all this stuff in one place - well done that man
I'm sure that if anybody had correct information on the Yammies, the data would be included in the OP.
So....get to work
There is some great Yammy info on the Japanaxe.com forums. They aren't a complete mystery. I think some people just can't get past thinking Yamaha=pianos/keyboards. The two Yamaha's I had were very nice and only really wanted for maybe a pickup upgrade to be great players. I think this one looked ok...
SR & ST yamaha strats are spec'd nice
steel blocks,alnico slug pups,vintage spec necks
I always associated yamaha with piss poor motorcycles
I'm looking for a pickguard for my SG....anybody have any leads on MIJ accessories? OR could someone please send me a template??
i have only the best to say about yamaha sr - st -sg and acoustic guitars
very good guitars ,,,, and very under rated ,,,,, the sg are very very good guitars ,,,, and the sr - st models are cheap and much better than a greco super power st 380 ,,,,, and the cost the same from new
so try one out you will be surpriced how much ýou get for the money
all the best
Would be good to have a list recommending spare parts like the pup rings, scratchplates,back covers, knobs etc. Always a problem getting plastics that are a decent fit most sellers/sites don't stick up reliable , or any, sizes. Even just getting the support bracket for the scratchplates can be a problem with being too short at the bend.
MIght be an idea for people to post any sellers and part numbers for replacement parts they've bought that are a decent fit.
Made In Japan parts/upgrades/fixes
readily available from stewmac,guitarpartsresource,ebay ect
The Gotoh aluminium tailpiece with metric threads is your ticket to '59 LP specs here.
part # 5740-N (N is for nickel) they also make chrome
There's also the regular Gotoh stop tailpiece. part #0168 $15-25 nickel,chrome & gold
these bolt/screw right in and since all your old mij's used gotoh hardware to start with ....
Gotoh ABR bridge part #0167 $20-25 in chrome,nickel,gold
small M4 posts.drops right down on your existing studs.pre-notched saddles
Gotoh part #0912 (nickel or gold) are a direct drop in replacement to the standard vintage style keystones with press fit bushings.$35-40
For the customs & 70's Burnys or anything that came with either grovers or metal keystone grover copies with a screw in bushing
To replace them with kidney bean buttons & tulip buttons.$50
Wilkinson also makes a damn fine alternative for around $20 though and better than the chinese grovers.
essential is getting a tuner with a vertical mounting hole not angled
To switch from grovers to vintage style you'll need either:
1.standard vintage style klusons with a set of conversion bushings to reduce the peg head hole from 10mm to vintage smaller size
2.buy some kluson deluxe tuners with the screw in bushings.
dimarzio pickup rings (white,cream,black) ebay $5
allparts pickguards (they're actually stickered made in japan)
backplates the same.
knobs from anywhere really just get metric ones
$2 chinese 2 screw truss rod covers
you don't really need CTS pots.besides they require enlarging the holes in the top.
if you must then you should get long shaft pots.and will more than likely require new knobs made for said pots.coarse knurled
alpha pots are just fine & dandy
any sort of orange drop,PIO cap will do just fine & be lightyears better than the lil green tic tacs it came with.Vintage high priced caps are irrelevant.ebay PIO cap $10 a pair
switch crafts require making the hole bigger
As far as I know the information provided about Edwards is misleading. Just saying "they are made in China and checked by Japanese inspectors" sounds misleading. A product is not "made" until it is finished, right? According to all sources the Edwards is at least finished and set up in Japan. This is a world of a difference! Sometimes, a set up is all the difference! Also, it is not just "inspectors". According to the e-mails from ESP, on which the whole MIC theory is based, all of the key operations are made by the Japanese professionals and local stuff is involved only in doing simple tasks such as sanding, so it is not just "inspectors"
All of the above is very different from just "MIC" and "Japanese inspectors". This "inspectors" thing leaves false impressions.
Also, as far as I know, there is a law in Japan that says that only products of which at least 65% made in Japan can be labeled as MIJ. I do not think that a Japanese company can brake Japanese law so easily.
All that matters is that buying Edwards a costumer gets a MIJ quality - period.
I thought headstock pics might be useful for identification purposes,
and was hoping owners of these, and other MIJ open book headstock brands,
would post pics + info on them.
There are many more of course, but thought it was a good start at least.
You've got it!
90's Bacchus Live Road, Bacchus Vintage Series
'83 Burny Super Grade, Mid 80's Burny Custom
'80 Burny FLG Super Grade, Late 80's Edwards Custom
'78 Fresher, '77 Greco Custom
'80 Greco EGF-1200 Super Real, '80 Greco EGF-1000 Super Real
'82 Greco Mint Collection, '82 Greco Custom
'89 Greco, '78 Guya
'78 Heerby, '80 JooDee
Early 80's Navigator, '79 Tokai Reborn
'81 Tokai Love Rock
1975 Burny FLG:
1978 Burny FLC:
1973? National hollow body:
A few to add:
Tokai custom blank headstock:
Epiphone Lacquer Series LP:
Epiphone Elite/Elitist Japan market:
Orville Custom and Orville By Gibson 57C
Orville By Gibson Standard. Take note of the wonky script.