80-82 Navigator

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  1. riscado

    riscado Member

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    So who bought the one that recently showed up for sale in japan (supposedly a 250 with blister top)?

    And... does any one have an early 80s ESP made Navigator for sale?
     
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  2. wulfman

    wulfman ABB Fan Premium Member

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    The one with the Gibson logo? Curious to see.
     
  3. riscado

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    hummm... no, it definitely had a normal 82-84 type of logo (no alongated V and no separate dot on the i), but otherwise most of the appointments of an early 80s ESP built navi.
     
  4. TheWilly17

    TheWilly17 Senior Member

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    ya thats the one I saw
     
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  6. riscado

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    we have a winner...
     
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    Not sure if you are looking only for a single cut. I have one each '79 and '80 Navigator 335's. '79 is a 100, believe the '80 is a 120 w/ striped ebony board. Would sell one of them.
     
  8. riscado

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    sorry, at the moment I was on the lookout for a LP.
     
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    This Kasuga made 100 was stellar.
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    Looks like a short tenon on Udo's, just like Heerbys of the period.
     
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    Short tenon and a stellar guitar? Why that's just crazy talk!!
     
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    Tenon talk always kind of amuses me -- like, think about how long the tenon still is on "short" tenon guitars, and then think about how much actual additional tenon is even still there after routing out for the neck pickup in a "long" tenon guitar.
     
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  14. riscado

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    It's not really how much tenon there is... it's more about how much contact surface. Which is why I find tenon similar to the ones greco or tokai used in the early 80s (not talking dowels here) perfectly acceptable.

    But in the end of the day, it doesn't really matter. A good guitar is a good guitar.
     
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    Early 50s? So Gibbo ripped 'em off! ( I know you meant early 80s mate ;))
     
  16. bluesriffdev

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    Everyone knows you need a long visible mortise and tenon to be a good guitar player. Didn't mean to stir debate, just think it's interesting to see what they were doing when a long tenon is basically agiven on all modern MIJ Gibson copies. Especially since early Navigators and Tokais are held in such high regard - and they didn't even have the fabled long tenon.
     
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  17. Udonitron

    Udonitron Psychedelic Stoner Rock Premium Member

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    It is a sub tenon, not into the cavity.
     
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  18. riscado

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    typo, of course... early 80s
     
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    Guys, we all know its not how long it is, rather how good you can use it..!!

    Wait!! what!! Wrong forum?

    :-D
     
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    Bit of wood talk.....
     
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