71-74 MIJ AUSTIN LP copy ID help

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  1. TheGreyGoose

    TheGreyGoose Junior Member

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    Hi Guy's,

    I'm new to the forum, and besides a Tokai TST-62 I'm new to MIJ guitars.

    I'm guessing its an unbranded product from the early 70's proceeding the changed headstocks in 77ish, and was badged here in the US by Austin, not the Austin we all know thats around today. ;-)

    Looks like a few early Greco's I've seen, so maybe the Matsumoto factory?

    Was there a factory that was more known for producing unbranded LP's for export to the US?

    Any info would be greatly appreciated!

    Thanks in advance for whatever info you might have! ;-)

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  2. TheGreyGoose

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    Apologies, please move this to the mystery LP thread, thx.
     
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    Will post pics of pots asap, thx!
     

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  5. wulfman

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    I think it is perhaps an older Fujigen like the old Grecos. If you can have a look at the back of the pickups you might find some more clues. Does it have a solid body or is it hollow?
     
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    Thanks for the FB!
    Its a solid body, I will pull the pots and peek under the pups and post pics, haven't had the time the last day or so.
    It sure has some commonalities with a few old Grecos I'm seeing, at least just from an untrained eye perspective.
    Whats the consensus thinking on those older Fujigen rigs, were those respectable guitars in the scheme of things?
    This is my first vintage MIJ LP copy guitar, but wow, seems to be a pretty decent guitar, and plays amazingly well so far, for the little I've played it!
    Thanks again for the input!
     
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  7. Grenville

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    Hi Chuck, it looks like a '74 or '75 Fujigen build to me too, the only discrepancy is the ABR-style bridge (thin posts) as opposed to the Nashville-style with thick, sunken posts that often came on early LP copies.

    Not a hugely valuable guitar, $200-$300, but if it plays good and sounds good, it is good.
     
  8. TheGreyGoose

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    Thanks!

    I'll play it for a while and see what it is just from a playability standpoint, I picked it up for the right price so its all good there, and ya it plays great so its all good there as well, anyway I'm pretty stoked with it for what it is at this point.

    I'll get those pics of the pups and pots this weekend, maybe we can confirm what it is.

    Thanks again guys, much appreciated!
     
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  9. warmachine

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    Does it have a 3 piece neck?
     
  10. TheGreyGoose

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    It's a 1 piece neck, is a 3 pc neck more desirable on these older MIJ LP's, more stable?

    For what its worth the neck on this one is simply... well its just about perfect so far as I can tell, even after all these years, but it's pretty clear this one hasn't been played a whole hell of a lot or mistreated.
     
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  11. TheGreyGoose

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    Here's what I found inside...

    Looks like it's past due time to remove all that and clean things up, install some 50's wiring, CTS pots, and PIO caps, will throw in a switchcraft switch and jack as well, why not.

    Will post the pickup pics next, but do these pics of the pots/caps tell us anything about the what/where/when etc re: the guitar itself?

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  12. TheGreyGoose

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    I am thinking of going with this set:

    https://www.tonemanguitar.com/store/p140/Les_Paul_Gibson_Epiphone_Premium_Upgrade_Kit_-_Short_Shaft_Pots_|_Vintage_K40Y-9_PIO_Paper_In_Oil_Tone_Caps_with_Switchcraft_3-Way_Switch.html

    • Bourns High Grade Low Friction 500K Vintage-Style Potentiometers. Short-Split Shaft – Audio Taper – 15% Tolerance. Design specifically for use in guitars. Brass bushing with metal shaft. Long Life Carbon Element. Each pot comes with nut and dress washer.
    • Paper In Oil (PIO) K40Y-9 Russian Vintage Caps. Your choice of cap values
    • Switchcraft 3-Way Short Straight Toggle Switch and Output Jack
    • 3" shrink tubing (to insulate jack lead in cavity)
    • Cloth Gavitt black push back wire for grounding pots connections.
    • 4.5 ft braided Gavitt shielded 50's Vintage 22awg wire (for wiring your 3 way switch & output jack)
    • 50's wiring diagram
    $60 free shipping, he has a prewired set for $100 bucks as well.

    Any thoughts fella's?
     
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  13. BadPenguin

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    Ok.... why the upgrade? If the current ones don't work, then fine, upgrade to your heart's content. But if they do.... why replace them?
     
  14. TheGreyGoose

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    Tone, ;-) Gonna drop in a SD JB for the bridge and a 59 in the neck as well.
     

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