2017 Custom Shop Les Paul Standard vs Historic Reissue

Discussion in 'Historics & Reissues' started by Andy California, Aug 22, 2017.

  1. Wizard of Ozz

    Wizard of Ozz Senior Member

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    Poppycock. That is absurd semantics.

    Gibson may have killed the "Historic Reissue" nomenclature... but these guitars carry the same specs, build, and in some cases are improved... as such the addition of the horse hide glue top previously only found on True Historics... which are also dead. It's the name game! Ludicrous.
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  2. Wizard of Ozz

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    I agree. Facts are facts. Marketing is marketing. Absurdity for the sake absurdity. The specs of the guitars speak for themselves.

    I concur ... and they sound killer regardless what some may wish to classify them as.
     
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    And they don't look half bad either :cool2:

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    And this is the simplest, best explanation I've heard yet and corroborated with the person I spoke with at The Music Zoo:

     
  5. mudface

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    The truth is what it is, the only absurd semantics :lol:is how you fight for them to be recognized as historics (personally i could not care less), and the belief that what you have ( if you even have one) will be the most sought after post Gembar & Wilson guitars ever made. That's funny.:rofl:
     
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    Getting better...................

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  9. Wizard of Ozz

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    I do have several... and what you fail to realize is written on the "Model:_____" of the factory warranty/checklist booklet that comes with the guitar from the factory... it says verbatim: "Model: LPR9 HR" ... wanna guess what the HR means?

    Ummm... lets think... LPR9... followed by the letters H & R... Hmmmm.... :facepalm:

    You're are talking about things with 3rd hand knowledge. Unlike myself... and others in this very thread.
     
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    not quite there yet... but getting closer. :420:
     
  11. mudface

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    And you still care Why? (Oh, but its not on the COA?) the check list Hmmmmmm:p
     
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    A couple of more of my Historics
     
  13. Andy California

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    I don't really mind or care what mudface thinks about the 2017s (he probably just want his 2013/14 Historics to become extra valuable due to being "the last Historic Reissues"), but it's really uncool to keep telling people who are new to Historics/Reissues and are looking to buy one that "Gibson no longer makes them and you'll have to get a used 2013/14" (perhaps adding "Buy one from me, it's ultra valuable!") while everyone knows well people buy these guitars not for the product name on the Certificate Of Authenticity or semi-official product descriptions, but for what these guitars actually are.
     
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    Is this thread for real?
     
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    Wrong again, I do not sell anything, and i might buy myself a 2017 if it's really something i can't pass up (they do look cool), but i'm not delusional and make myself believe it's anything more than what it IS, a nice Custom Shop guitar. There is nothing about any of them that are going to make them "more valuable". There are just too Damn many of them made. From 2013 to 2017, the so called "good spec years", they're 10s of thousands.
    If you buy one new you already lost money, and if you don't care like me (cuz it's my money) it doesn't matter. I rather buy a 2017 used. :D


    To be quite honest i'm just having fun reading about people flipping out over what really doesn't matter.:D
     
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    I'd rather have a '56 GT reissue, and the '18 Classic comes close, except for the neck.
     
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    Yes, i do like the '18 Classic and I might just snag me one. The Pelham blue is nice.
     
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    This is my poor-mans '56........A Traditional Pro P-90.
     
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    I can't figure it out

     
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  20. Andy California

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    The way you oppose to these being labelled as "Reissues" makes it look as if "actual Reissues" are somewhat more than "nice Custom Shop guitars".

    Not even TH specs? I get it, you don't care about TH plastics. I don't either, and I bought a 2016 even though I could have had a 2017. But there are folks who are sold on TH specs.

    I don't mean to be rude, but for a person who thinks that stuff doesn't matter, you oppose these people too strongly.
     
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