2017 Brazilian R9s

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  1. BigDipper15

    BigDipper15 Hack Guitarist Premium Member

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    SOOOOO much more True than other True Historics to date....=0)
     
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    Don’t introduce logic or facts into this!

    Braz can always be determined by its tone, it’s color, it’s grain and it’s smell.

    Always.

     
  3. Clint

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    Truest Historic :laugh2:
     
  4. markguitar

    markguitar MLP Sponsor

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    Interesting. This is not an exclusive WW run of only 25 R9's w/ Brazilian. Gibson has a decent amount of Brazilian and any of the internet approved dealers can have a run of 25 or more made. So unless no other dealers get in on it, it will not be limited to only 25 made and over.
     
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    Uh, I don't think so. I think Jamman is from Brazil, maybe he can chime in on this. From what I understand, there is still clear cutting going on in the Amazon rainforest to create farmland. Clear cutting has only diminished a small amount from it's peak years ago. Much of the BR is probably burned in the process, or, sold on the black market (to China).
    The removal of BR from the CITES list probably won't happen for hundreds of years, if ever.
     
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  6. DanD

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    M2M Braz? That'd be cool. You could create the ultimate 1 off... :cool2:
     
  7. DanD

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    A Braz Pearly redo would work for me.
     
  8. jlb32

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    I don't think it will be removed from the CITES list for a long time, if ever, but I do think more Brazilian rosewood will become legally available for sale as the years pass compared to today.
     
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    So where is it going to come from? Secret stashes in the US? The black market?
     
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    There has been clear cutting forever due to farmland and development. Hopefully the Brazilian government has realized the value of Brazilian rosewood and prevented it's clear cutting somewhat over the years, equaling more abundance in years to come.
     
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    Obviously if a species is on the CITES endangered list it is allowed to grow somewhat more abundantly, without legal harvesting, than beforehand.

    That equals more legal sales in the future due to more abundance of the species.

    It is not like all Brazilian rosewood trees have left the face of the earth and only 2-3 trees remain. lol

    If the CITES enforcement works the species will come back stronger in the future. That is the whole reason for CITES.

    If not, they would just let the species die off forever and never be seen again on our planet.
     
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    I don't see why BR seeds are not brought into the US and grown into trees. All CITES says is that BR can not be imported into the US. :dunno:
     
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    There are thousands upon millions of Brazilian rosewood trees still in the world. The CITES, endangerment, is just to keep it from being completely extinct.
     
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    ........& they have been replanting, it is just that this species takes a long time to reach maturity.

    :cheers2:
     
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    It can be imported to the USA but has to have all the correct paperwork to make it happen.
     
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    If I were king of the world, I'd decree that 100 BR trees per year can be harvested for guitar and furniture makers. It would be sold in a lottery fashion.

    This would not endanger the species at all.
     
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    I do know Chicago Music Exchange is getting some of these as well.
     
  18. Nippon

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    Wow, it looks just like a Gibson Les Paul. Think I may get one. Just not one of those, but one that looks like it.
     
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  19. DanD

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    3 nearly 10K axes sold in a day.

    Someone had the right idea.

    I'm guessing they will all sell out rather quickly.

    I wonder how many more runs of Braz are coming... :hmm:
     
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    Dang it. I had #4 in the shopping cart. I should’ve pulled the trigger faster. Oh well. There should be another 20, and another 25 from CME.
     

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