2 Les Paul's with the same pups - Can you hear a difference

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  1. Mikeb

    Mikeb Senior Member

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    So in one corner is a 59 replica and the other a 2002 Gibson les Paul, both have the same pickups, but is there a sound difference? :)

     
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    cybermgk Singin' the body lectric Premium Member V.I.P. Member

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    2 pairs of Hand wound pickups? Then unlikely to be exactly the same. And yes, they sound different. But, I can also tell they aren't even adjusted the same for same output levels.
     
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    What do they mean by "59 Replica" is it a Gibson, or a fake/copy? If so - I hate to say it but I thought it sounded the better of the two!

    Regarding the "hand wound" pick-ups - I would have thought they would sound pretty much the same. Even hand winding machines will have a mechanical (or electronic) turns counter, so they will have the same number of turns. I'm not sure if this was the case back in the days of the original LPs - I think they just wound them until they looked full, or the operator got bored!
     
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    cybermgk Singin' the body lectric Premium Member V.I.P. Member

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    True, but, that doesn't guarantee wound on the bobbin exactly the same, equal thickness on the bobbin because of that. Skill of the winder comes to play, and he/she might even purposely make the wind slightly different on each pickup on purpose.
     
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    You'd have to be blind to not hear the difference.
     
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    These guys are want to be chappers and the captain from andertons music company.
     
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    Not sure those are meant to be “same” pickups, but Im sure those are different electronics.
     
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    You understand it's one person, right?
     
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    No sorry, I thought they were twins.
     
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    The electronics configuration is not the same so the comparison is kind of moot, isn't it? Not even sure about the pickups
     
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    ^ How do you know the validity of any of the assertions you have made?? I mean he says the components are the same in the vid. Monty only makes 1 wind of PAF clone too.
     
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    Lately when I hear "replica" it means someone trying to legitimize a chibson. Counterfeit would be more appropriate, even if it sounds better
     
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    Tone isn't good on both. Don't like the licks either.
     
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    mikeb is a monster player. Good guy, too. :yesway:
     
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    Let`s wait for Mikes input, but maybe they are actually the exact same pickups. As in he installed the same pickups in both guitars before recording?
     
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    Hi Guys, The guitar is a replica made by a local luthier. He is a massive fan of vintage Les Paul's and has made one as close as he could. The pickups are 2 separate Monty PAF pickups. Thanks for watching.
     
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    Phew - that's a relief - having stuck my neck out and said I preferred the sound of the replica, I was hoping it wasn't going to turn out to be a Chinese knock-off!

    Great vid by the way!
     
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    I agree with the comment that they both sound lousy. But that means little because these shootouts mean little. The crappy (IMO) tone could easily be simply a poor (IMO) match between the rig and the instruments, which sound raspy and gritty. Or it could be a product of the recording, or my playback. On the other hand, I'll be I could take either one of those two and with a different setup end up with something I love. I realize many people love these videos, and think they have some relationship to actual guitar tone, and that's great. I thought that this one, like most, shows little to nothing. I mean, are you really going to create a decent comparison by playing a bunch of bent notes, sloppy semi-fast licks, etc.? We can tell how you play. But how does the guitar itself sound?
     

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