1983 Les Paul Standard

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  1. Mat_P

    Mat_P Senior Member

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    Hi guys,

    a friend is offering me his 1983 Les Paul Standard, tobacco Sunburst in pretty used but otherwise good conditions (frets are good).
    It's heavy as a stone but good sounding and playing, even though not as filigran as my 2004 R7, more of a rock axe with good treble.
    Barely any original hardware left except stoptail and bridge.
    Tuners are Schaller lockers, Pickups are Burstbuckers 2 + 3.
    I can't seem to find any info on what a fair price tag would be for this instruments, the web is full with info on Studios and all those "collectables" that rolled out in 1983, but nothing on Standards.
    Would apprechiate some input from you experts.
     
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    BigAl Senior Member

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    Seeing as how it is not all original, I'd say 1800. It sounds like it will make a great player and possibly looker too ;)!
     
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    Mat_P Senior Member

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    Thanks Al!
    That would be US Dollars, right?
     
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    Mat_P Senior Member

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    Hehe, yeah, it certainly suits my father's son. :)
     
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    KenG Senior Member

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    Considering you could get a new Trad for $100 more without haggling, I'd say $1800 is a little pricey. Hell newer used Standards top out around there little mind a 83. Just because it's old doen't make it collectible or vintage IMO.
     
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    BigAl Senior Member

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    It doesn't, however, these Norlin era Lesters are getting rarer by the day and climbing in value not just due to inflation. Granted, this one isn't all original, but if it's in great shape, $1800 sounds pretty fair.

    Yes it would.
     
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    I concur with $1800. BUT, I would loooove to see some pictures, as we all would I'm sure, to get a better feel for it and give a better estimate. I also agree with Norlins being on the rise. I think over the next 10 years the Norlin skeptics will be very surprised. Even over the last 5 years the overall desire of Norlins has greatly increased.
     
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    There's an '81 black Standard on my area craigslist going for $1250, all original, no mods. It's been available all weekend and no one has bought it. I see nothing that indicates Norlin era Les Pauls are becoming more scarce?
     
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    Craigslist is never to good to be true?

    Ebay item numbers:

    270745283596 - 1980 Les Paul Standard $1999

    290570560277 - 1978 Les Paul Standard $3499

    300561963326 - 1981 Les Paul Standard $2799

    220792198688 - 1977 Les paul Standard $2500

    330507381224 - 1978 Les Paul Standard $3000

    220792063264 - 1978 Les Paul Standard $2400

    330571484617 - 1979 Les Paul Standard $2199
     
  10. KenG

    KenG Senior Member

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    I don't disagree that Norlins will rise in value but only to a select group of 'collectors'. The appeal of a Norlin era LP is to a smaller portion of LP lovers.
     
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    Lol, you find one outlier and make a conclusion? :shock: Btw you better pick it up for that price hahaha.
     
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    With the description given I would offer 1500$ and a case of beer.
     
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    Thanks for the replies, guys!
    However, not too sure if I still want her.
    Took her into the rehearsal room yesterday and out of the 4 Les Pauls we both guitarists have at hand this one was by far the weakest.
    It just doesn't cut through the mix and you have to fight for each note.
    Tone remains awfully flat, there's no connection between you and the guitar at band level, very strange.
    I'll try swapping the Bridge for a Duesenberg ABR-1 clone that I have laying around to see if that helps, but honestly I doubt that.
     
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    pmonk Senior Member

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    Where is your area? I have the same guitar in my area (NYC) that is going more than double that price!!!


    For $1250 - I would have bought that guitar tomorrow!
     
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    my 86 standard was $1500, bone stock and almost mint. i'd say $1800 is high honestly, i'm with KenG on this one.
     
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    Lots of things you could do about that. Suspect #1: how old are the strings? If they're dead, they're dead. A lightweight tailpiece slammed all the way to the body & topwrapped always seems to make a guitar more resonant for me. Bridge and nut should also be looked at - you want them clean, smooth and the strings to make good contact. If it plays well acoustically, but not plugged in, it could be a lot of things - cold solder joints, bad wiring, dirty pots & contacts. Do the clean/maintenance things first - they're all cheaper than replacing parts. If it looks like parts need changing then chisel down the price to cover it. Not many LP's can't be made to sound good, with a little care.
     
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    +1
     
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    LOL? Really? I see deals like the one I described, often. When I am in the market - I buy them. This isn't a one time thing, you idiot.
     
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    Seattle. Sorry, it's an '82. My mistake.

    http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/msg/2411723924.html
     

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