1978 Tokai LS-60 price check?

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  1. Eigen

    Eigen Senior Member

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    Hi everyone it's been a while!

    I've been out of the MIJ game for a while (still rocking on my 1980 EG-700 though!) and have been offered a 1978 Rebord LS-60 in a trade, was hoping to tap into the subforums knowledge on this one, as ebay prices aren't making a whole lot of sense? I see 197-'-1981 LS-60's listed for a bit less than LS-80's, in the low or mid 1XXX$, but that can't be right?

    What would be a realistic valuation on an LS-60 from this era? I was thinking max 1k but closer to 900$? It is a decent plain-top cherry in the 80017XX range.

    Keep in mind that this is one Europe though, so I assume there is a bit of a premium commanded here?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,
    Eigen
     
  2. reborn old

    reborn old Senior Member

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    Hi Eigen,
    I'm not sure if eBay Germany has an advanced search filter that displays recently sold items ? ... but that's what I would rely on.
    A few vendors list for crazy prices hoping an impatient buyer will push the buy button.

    One thing to check for on 1978 models, is whether the guitar has a two piece center seam neck. It might not make a difference to you or others, it's just something I would want to know. Early 1978 models were the only ones constructed this way.
    Later 1978 models and newer, all have one piece necks, other than a few with heel joints on 1990+ examples.
     
  3. Grenville

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    I've noticed people asking a lot more for their '78-'83-ish Tokai's lately, up to 50% more than usual ie LS80 for $2800, LS60 for $1500-$2000. Nuts!
     
  4. Eigen

    Eigen Senior Member

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    Thanks for the tip, reborn old, unfortunately I couldn't find enough precedent transactions to really come up with an accurate gauge of value imo.

    The seller, whom I trust, did tell me that this was one of the, if not the, best playing Tokai's of that era he has played, and I know he owns a 120 from the same era, among many other high end guitars. Otherwise I would likely be passing anyway, I will check about the neck, from photo's it certainly looks one piece.

    Another strange thing is that from photos it appears to be nitro (though most/all are poly from what i've read?), has that distinct belt buckle worming that you usually don't get with poly, among other things. Is it just a very thin coating, or were there LS-60 examples with nitro?

    Yeah, Grenville, prices seem to have exploded, in particular on these lower model numbers, as far as I remember there was an even larger price difference between 60's and 80's a oouple years ago, but who knows could just be a false memory.
     
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    villager Senior Member

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    all 60 are poly unless its been refinished.. 80s are around 1600 euro 60s should be under 1000 euro, unless the top is exceptional..
     
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    Lumi71 Senior Member

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    I recently sold a 1980 reborn old LS60 for 1150 Euro. Had a beautiful figured maple top in Tobacco and was lightweigt with 3.8 KG. Upgraded Faber hardware, too.
     
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    brokentoeswalker Senior Member

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    The prices of guitars in Europe are really expensive. I realize that people probably make more and it just seems that way to a guy from Canada but wow !!!
     
  8. Eigen

    Eigen Senior Member

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    Thank you, villager and Lumi, that is about what I figured, looks to be quite optimistic pricing by some sellers. :)

    The trade is still borderline worth it though, I will have to see how the guitar plays.

    Yes, brokentoeswalker, in Europe we have value added tax and customs duties, so figure in an extra 22-24% on top of the guitars price+shipping, good times.
     
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    Lumi71 Senior Member

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    by the way-
    the ls60 "outplayed" a ls80 and a ls120 I had, too.
     

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