1971 les paul deluxe conversion repair the "Dirty Grandpa"

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  1. restless

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    My 20th Anny. Custom has the same Caps ('74)
     
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    Actually into 73, my early to mid 73 Deluxe still has this squared logo (21. week 73 pots). :)
     
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    Ok, so here is an image of the route when I got it.
    The screw holes are blown out and the pickup was barely hanging on.
     
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    Here it is after carving it out with my chisels.
    I curved the corners like the originals on the bottom and cleaned up the top.
     
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    Here is the wood. I bought it from Bell forest products over the internet they sell mostly to fountain pen makers $25.00 total
    It is flamed maple and African mahogany
     
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    LoL
    Clamped it to the wood stove and cut it with the fret saw.
     
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    I made a template of thick paper to get the shape then carved the pieces to fit.
     
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    I had made mohagany pieces for the bottom but they weren’t needed so I ended up not useing them.
     
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    Cut some cardboard to hold it together while the glue dries.
    This worked really well.
    I was going to cleat all corners originally but there was still enough wood on the bridge so I filled and drilled.
    After it was all dried I came back and carved the wood down flush with the top.
    This maple is hardwood so I drilled pilot holes for the pickup ring screws.
     
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    Ok so here’s a tool to pull the tail piece posts. I had to pull em to reset the pot ground wire that had broken off and the other one was in too deep so I set it flush with the top.
     
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    So here it is done.
    Just to let you know,
    This replacement pickup rings are the gibson historic cost you extra deal they are selling and are smaller width wise and barely covered the original mini humbucker rout. I would not have gotten them if I had known and they almost didn’t work.
    It’s a buthair on to the body on the sides but it covers the hole with no spaces.

    Did these
    http://www.gibson-talk.com/forum/es-sential-hollowbodies/15130-gibson-factory-set-up-specs.html
    Setup specs then set action to taste and intonation an BaBamBa ready to play.
    ^>,..,<^
     
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    I might top wrap the strings on the next change to see how that feels.

    See the missing screw, the cleat popped off cause I didn’t wait long enough and didn’t drill a pilot hole.
    It was the last one to go in and I wanted to play this thing so I will glue it back later LoL
     
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    It’s player clean which is fine by me I got tired of polishing it. It’s always this way with me I want it to work perfect and the looks are secondary.
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    It had brown switch cover and no control cover. I was gonna get brown but they didn’t have a set that color and wanted more than double for just the control so black it is.

    As far as I can tell the neck’s got a grey wire T Top around 1972-73 cause no shield on the lead and it has a little bit of the pat sticker on the bottom under a piece of tape someone stuck on it . Like the one in the picture . I saw another grey wire T Top with an gibson embossed cover was a 73 I think.

    And I don’t know whats in the bridge the bottom is brass and has a small m or w stamped into the metal.
    Looks a bit like a mighty mite but the bobbins have holes.
    The screws are bigger I had to make the pickup ring holes bigger to mount it.
    And it sounds really good.
     
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    Some links

    50’s wiring diagram
    http://archive.gibson.com/Files/schematics/lespaul2.gif

    Gibson set up specs I used then set action to taste,
    http://www.gibson-talk.com/forum/es-sential-hollowbodies/15130-gibson-factory-set-up-specs.html

    Gibson scale length years changes
    http://www.stewmac.com/How-To/Onlin...retting_and_Fretw/Scale_Length_Explained.html

    Wood supplier
    http://www.bellforestproducts.com/

    Guitar repair book free online sweet,
    https://books.google.com/books?id=zF24JMkjSpQC&pg=PA93&lpg=PA93&dq=abr+thread+into+wood&source=bl&ots=DxwA8uy0P_&sig=8gf1lBNeoBzW7iodSKX4__w_JFo&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjox-LS8aDWAhWmjVQKHb6rDyoQ6AEIczAV#v=onepage&q=abr thread into wood&f=false

    Here’s a link so you can hear the sound,
    Recorded with iPad mic and camera
    Playing through 1965 Vibrolux Blackface with 1 greenback and 1 alnico gold 10” celestions installed and a ts-9 tubescreamer.
     
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    Nice job ! Interesting thread , thanks
     
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    your hands would be the best to condition it , my opinion...:thumb:

    i really like this thread and learned a few things, great job on that and a great reference for future readers that run across similar issues

    very nice, that is a player no doubt

    thanks for the thread :h5:
     
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    Beautiful old guitar, Can't help it, I'm a sucker for worn guitars, I love patina. Very interesting thread, great pics, and I love the tone, that bridge pickup sounds good whatever it is.
     
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    Very cool thread. Love seeing these old Norlins.
    Thanks for sharing.:thumbs:
     
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    you can squeeze lots of tone out of these old deluxes
     

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