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Discussion in 'Historics & Reissues' started by charveldan, Aug 3, 2009.
Is a Gibson 1960 Les Paul Classic considered a "reissue"???
But they say 1960 on the pickguard???
No. Reissues are custom shop guitars built like a specific model, example, the 1959 les paul standard reissue. Les Paul Classic is just a generally inspired by (what was it, 80s LPs?)
Were they even making Les Pauls in 1960? Wasn't that when they came out with the SG/Les Paul, or "the Paul"?
'60 was the last year for the single cut Les Paul.. Some single cut Customs were made in '61.
1960 was the last year for the Les Paul as we know and love it. The 'Classic' is just a regular, run of the mill production-line guitar. I have two, and they are very nice guitars, but are nothing extraordinary.
1960 is on the pickguard as bait to get the uninformed to shell out cash for it.
So $ 4800. is too much?
I'm middle-aged, poor & white, but i love this guitar.............
One piece Honduras mahogany body
SoZo mustard caps.
Graphtech saddles & Historic lightweight aluminum tailpiece.
Duncans SH-5 Custom, bridge & 59' neck.
The Classic, and Classic Plus, were the forerunners of the
Custom Shop Historic Reissues. They did not have the same
construction as the Historic Reissues, as seen below, they
are short tenon guitars.
The 1960's were called R6, and would have R6 in the pickup
cavity. The Custom Shop Historic Reissue R6 was a Reissue
of the 1956 Les Paul. The Custom Shop Historic Reissue R0
would have LPR0, and the paint code in the pickup cavity.
Both were usually hand written in ball point pen , and would
have a long tenon. The Custom Shop did not make any R0's
in 1993, and as far as I can tell only made one R0 in 1994,
the one pictured in the Sales Brochure. They did make a few
R0's in 1995.
Axe- for a run of the mill Classic absolutely way too much, the Classic Plus or Premium Plus maybe but still on the high end of things........
I wouldn't pay much over $2800. for a R8.
Here is my 04 Classic. under $1400. New.
Gotcha, but you got to watch them Fleabay sellers, I've seen them for more than they are worth.
Hey D-gold, can we see some frontal pic's of the whole guitars???? What i can see is amazing.
Actually they are 1960 reissues, but not the sense that the forums tend to think of 1960 reissues! It was Ribloff's idea of a production model reissue that could be sold more cheaply than the traditional reissue line.
The early ones (1990-1992) are really nice. They have a short tenon, but otherwise are every bit as nice as a Historic IMO. I've had several over the years and I still have a 1991 model. I used to like the thin necks, but I've really become accustomed to the thick necked Historics so this one doesn't see all that much action any more.
The 1991-mid 1993 reissues (preHistorics) took on most of the more accurate features of the Classic. That is, more accurate than the 1983-1990 preHistorics.
I love my 1990 Classic. The only thing I don't like about it that really doesn't matter from a player's perspective - and a player is what I am as I will never afford to collect - is that it's from the first run with round-edged fretboard inlays. Also the issue of the neck pickup cavity not being routed deep enough annoyed me for a while since the pickup sat badly slanted in there, but that was easily fixed with some elbow grease.
I think it's sad what Gibson made of the Classic after 1993. The green inlays weren't all that bad on all the newer ones, but replacing the ABR-1 bridge with a Nashville, thickening the only truly slim neck Gibson had throughout the period and making the top carve less pronounced were all terrible moves as far as I'm concerned.
Here's mine, on the right:
Mine is a 1960 Classic, I believe from 90/91.. Love it! Really love it! It's relic'd and has poop load of character because of it IMO. I love it! Pickguard does say 1960 on it, and it says classic on the headstock like above said.