1956 Les Paul Special - middle position out of phase

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  1. windsen

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    I recently acquired a single owner/all original '56 LPS. Bridge and neck pickup tones are just superb. In the middle position, the pickups are obviously out of phase, which I know is not uncommon. While the tonal options are cool with varying volume/tone knob settings, I think I'd get more use out of the in phase tones from both pickups - and I do intend to play this thing. I understand that the phase issue can be corrected without touching solder joints - just flip the magnets along the access of the guitar body in one pickups, correct? Seems like minimal alteration to the originality of the guitar. Thoughts, fellas? Thanks in advance!

    Oh and yes, pics will come =)
     
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    Yep, flip magnets on one. You could always make a note of
    it inside case. So it would be originally known to have been
    out of phase.
     
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    Not a fan either..there's a notable sound difference when switching, and I like a smooth switch myself.
     
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    Doesn't p90s have 2 magnets? Wich one to flip, or should he flip both?
     
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    Flipped both magnets on the neck pickup and it sounds perfectly in phase now! Good stuff!

    Only thing is the holes for neck pickup mounting screws in the neck pocket are stripped - I'll need to fill them in and remedy that. Wish these screws were longer!
     
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    remedy.. toothpick broken off in wood. Tighten screw.
     
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    It's tricky because the screw holes for the neck pickup are way down in the cavity and the screws barely go into the wood to begin with.
     
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    break it off at the top of the hole.
     
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    Toothpick + titebond worked perfectly! Thanks, man!
     
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    Awesome!!
     
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    I keep some toothpicks in my cable bag in case of stripped strap buttons, etc. That and a screwdriver can solve a multitude of problems!
     
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    another if someone wants to use Maple, is used small detail brush handles. They are tapered too
     
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    I've used the toothpick trick more times than I can count. My wife makes fun of me for it.

    *Me getting a toothpick from the kitchen after dinner*
    Wife: Going to fix a guitar?
     
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    My old p90s are out of phase...personally, I love it but it varies from pickup set to pickups set.
     

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