1956 Les Paul special curious serial number and ...

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  1. galsange

    galsange Junior Member

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    Hi, I'm interressed about this 1956 Gibson Les Paul special TV, but I have some interrogations:
    - the serial number kooks curious, but I remember that I've seen an other like this one.
    - the neck is very big
    - the finish looks thick, oversprayed?

    Can you help me to know if this is a real , fake or modified Les Paul ?
    Thanks. Laurent (France)


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    galsange Junior Member

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    Fred Premium Member

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    It's real.
     
  5. none2low

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    The one the original poster is questioning looks real to me as well.

    Perhaps, with a few changed parts...

    The jack plate appears to be only single ply, the neck P90 has white/black leads wires which makes me question if original (I'd expect to see two black leads) but anything is possible and anomalies are seen all the time.

    Check the wiring harness and see if it shows any signs of the solder joints being broken.

    Other than that, it looks good to me. I'm sure others will be along to help and might see something I'm missing.
     
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    Thanks guys.

    non2low, I agree with the changed jack plate. I had a doubt, but you are right about the white/black leads wires, it's probably a 60's pickup ... the seller say all parts original ...
     
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    Excuse me chasenblues, I said "the same curious serial number" about the fade inked, high on the headstock and the curious form of the digits (?). My bad english limit my explanations :facepalm:
     
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    Get high res photos of the fretboard, neck binding etc. It's kind of hard to fake that worn in rounded appearance on the wood. Same thing with dings on the body. The nitro looks very clean but finely cracked like freezer treatment to me. Also, the tuning heads are oxidized way more than the other metal parts. The screws look pristine. Even the pots look pretty clean but there might be codes to date them. I am no expert but have played a few vintage specials. People know what the originals looked like due to all the internet. It is quite conceivable there are fake specials out there even though the profit would be far less than a std.
     
  9. Jumping@shadows

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    Total refin, bridge pickup is from ‘52, neck one from ‘63 or so and the wrap tail is from early ‘53.
     
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    Finish and colour doesn't look right, I vote refin. Serial was probably re-inked all the way up there after, that doesn't look original. J@S really knows his stuff on the parts side, I'm sure everything he said is correct.
     
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    Might be an illusion, but I feel like those frets look awfully big to still be sitting inside the binding.
     

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