'14 / '15 TH comparisons

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  1. mapat

    mapat Senior Member

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    You're right Jamman, we've finally established that it's HOT hide glue used on the tops. And it only took 17 pages. :lol:

    RAG7890 has been the consistent Doubting Thomas and I can't fault him too much as Gibson has been guilty of shenanigans in the past ( 2 piece rosewood boards anyone ? ).

    But it does look like he's going to have to change his avatar now... :wave:
     
  2. mfolet

    mfolet Senior Member

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    All it took was a phone call.
     
  3. 7gtop

    7gtop Premium Member

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    I'll say the TH's are a success, I guess :thumb:

    I'll make th!s REAL easy :thumbs:

    I won't even use purple :lol:

    I won't check the class!fieds.... anywhere :D

    say 1 NGD per week, 52 total in 2o15/16 :hmm:

    mmmk.... :naughty:

    We'll ALL be wa!ting

    :cheers:

    :wave:
     
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  4. jlb32

    jlb32 Senior Member

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    I've personally just got to the point where I really don't care anymore. The prices Gibson is asking for the regular and aged Historics, CC's and Artist runs in 2015 is insane IMO. They can ask and do what they will. I won't be playing along anymore. I have a feeling a big majority of those that might have bought new in 2015 won't be playing along either.
     
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  5. Sct13

    Sct13 Gold Supporter Premium Member

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    My feelings exactly.....
     
  6. RAG7890

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    Travelling so don't have my Laptop but I will say a couple of things.

    Firstly, show me a Video of HHG being used to Glue Maple Billets to the Mahogany Bodies at Gibson; i.e. an actual production run.

    Call me suspicious but I am not swallowing that one without hard evidence. If they can't get the spelling right I'm interested to see what they actually use & how they do it & don't use the confidential argument because glueing Maple to Mahogany is well known.

    Why do Gibson say HHG for the Neck but HG for the other operation?

    Secondly, don't get carried away about HHG or HG for a TH Michael because a TH has to have UF Glue or it is not a "true" Historic, now is it?

    Cheers, Rudi.
     
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  7. 7gtop

    7gtop Premium Member

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    :applause:

    Rudz... safe travels mate

    :wave:


    Maybe th!s {glue} thang is l!ke the Beez


    bananas !n our ta!l~p!pes


    :rofl::rofl:

     
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  8. mfolet

    mfolet Senior Member

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    Urea-formaldehyde glue was used on the ES line of guitars and Hot Hide glue on the Les Pauls from what I understand.I would tend to believe the company that actually built them than some Luthiers that are trying to reverse engineer them.
     
  9. Drog

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    Well my TH has shipped and I should receive it next week. I am just hoping for a fantastic instrument. This is my first Ri Les Paul (excluding my Krieger LP). Sure I could have purchased a 13/14 model, but after playing one of the '59 TH it was a done deal. I ordered an R0 TH. I am going to compare it to a 2014 R8.
     
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  10. mfolet

    mfolet Senior Member

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    Congrats :dude:
     
  11. RAG7890

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    C'mon Michael surely you can come up with a better statement than that!

    They got it wrong, admit it. Do you want me to get a sample of the run out from a '50's Gibson & get it analysed for you?

    Would make for an interesting Thread I would think.

    Let's put some Science to work along with the opinions of some of the most highly rated Luthiers on the Planet, since you don't believe them.

    Cheers, Rudi
     
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  12. mfolet

    mfolet Senior Member

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    You got it wrong Rudi,admit it.
    I don't need anymore opinions. We have enough of those already.Don't you think?
     
  13. charisjapan

    charisjapan Silver Supporter

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    sigh ...

    18 pages, and totally forgot that this thread was about '14 / '15 TH comparisons.

    I guess I'll just say it, come what may ...

    I am not worried about the word "true" ... I know it's only a marketing decision, and haven't the slightest sense that my two Historics are cheapened or made lesser (sounds like an insecurity issue to me). However outraged, angry, or rabid one becomes, only a Gibson will be a Gibson. They can charge more, use whatever glue they like, and make any outlandish claim they please ... it's as simple as that.

    I really doubt that company will go under because a few folks boycott the CS guitars, or they have a bad year because of some silly robots and wide fretboards. If they want, they can change it all back for 2016, or make the changes optional, or try something even weirder. They are still Gibson. Unless someone is privy to the company books, all is just hot air and conjecture. We're now into the 3rd quarter of 2015, and will soon be looking for 2016 hints and rumors.

    And man! They are just guitars. Get a grip ... or buy another brand.

    ... from all reports thus far, the THs look and sound great!!

    cj
     
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  14. 7gtop

    7gtop Premium Member

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    mmmmmk :thumb:

    "all reports" :hmm:

    what, maybe 10 TH's !n total :laugh2:

    a couple already on the used l!sts
    that even I've seen :cool:

    and up here, we're at l!ke 7k more than a 14/15 R
    {approx. 14k + 13% t0tal} for a spec!al 0rder TH9
    and your on the hook for at least a 20% deposit
    upon your order if it's JUST.... a gu!tar & NOT a keeper...
    s!nce most of THE chain stores won't even stock 'em...


    yeah, NO

    ** s0 as stated earlier... posted NGD's
    are our mark of a product's success.... always have been...
    BUT everything ch-ch-ch-changes and they'll succeed
    and we'll be in the dark about !t ALL :D


    :laugh2::laugh2:


     
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  15. charisjapan

    charisjapan Silver Supporter

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    psst! it's a conspiracy. :naughty:

    ... so buy used Historic, or another brand, or save up for a used TH, or wait for the 2016 Most Truly Historic ... life is simple.

    It is JUST a guitar (not a liver transplant) ... until you own it, then it's YOUR guitar. :wave:

    cj
     
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  16. 7gtop

    7gtop Premium Member

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    psssst

    BUY v!ntage for THAT $

    :lol:
     
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  17. jlb32

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    I am personally more about tonal changes than slight cosmetic changes. Even the guys from the Custom Shop, that have commented on certain forums, say the type of glue used really doesn't seem to make a difference tonally.

    The elimination of the truss rod condom and the Custom Buckers in 2013 are the biggest tonal changes they have made of late according to those guys. I would have to agree.

    I personally would love to see Gibson continue to work on pickup variations. If they aren't going to go to the old school nitro or Brazilian rosewood fretboards then these minor plastic changes don't mean much to me personally.
     
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    The problem is you need to sell a Kidney to get one....and maybe some bone tissue....
     
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  19. Drog

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    For me the reason I purchased a TH is the rolled neck. It simply feels better than previous reissues I have played. I wanted a reissue LP and this fits what I want. The price was not a concern, the difference is really a non factor. Besides this is a guitar I plan to have until I die. Good investment for the price paid, IMO.
     
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  20. mfolet

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    Psssssst there is an Vintage section you can hang out in.:D
     

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