53/57 Goldtop

rodneyk915 · 11-01-2009, 02:13 PM

From the guitar show in Arlington, TX, a goldtop tagged 53/57:

shannon undery · 11-02-2009, 04:57 AM

Which store had that for sale. How much were they asking.

Cheers

benjammin420 · 11-02-2009, 05:04 AM

i dont see what makes it '57'ish

Hedcrash · 11-02-2009, 10:48 AM

Does anyone besides me ever look at pictures from guitar shows of all the guitars up on stands precariously perched on folding tables and get nervous?

jimi55lp · 11-02-2009, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benjammin420

i dont see what makes it '57'ish

I think that Goldtop guitar is a 1957 P90 that was converted to a trapeze 1953 to preserve the traptails that are all being converted. I knew it was just a question of time before this happed. Or I guess there could be some other explaination?

diceman · 11-02-2009, 12:55 PM

A '57 would have had Humbuckers (except for the early ones?) - but it would definitely had a stop tail regardless of when it was built in '57 (99% of the time) - which makes me think it is a '53.

That said, my luthier has a stock '56 GT which has a trapeze on it - from the factory.

It is a strange duck. This COULD have been another like that.

If the above was a "conversion," though - it would have had stop tail studs. And, the low bridge height wrapped under implies a shallow neck angle to me as well.

I'd still take it, though!

rodneyk915 · 11-02-2009, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shannon undery

Which store had that for sale. How much were they asking.

Cheers

I don't recall seeing a price on this one and I honestly didn't pay attention to who had it. Sorry.

diceman · 11-02-2009, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hedcrash

Does anyone besides me ever look at pictures from guitar shows of all the guitars up on stands precariously perched on folding tables and get nervous?

Yeah, I do!

mapleflame · 11-06-2009, 05:32 PM

Special order or had a reneck with a 57 serial.

jimi55lp · 11-07-2009, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diceman

A '57 would have had Humbuckers (except for the early ones?) - but it would definitely had a stop tail regardless of when it was built in '57 (99% of the time) - which makes me think it is a '53.

That said, my luthier has a stock '56 GT which has a trapeze on it - from the factory.

It is a strange duck. This COULD have been another like that.

If the above was a "conversion," though - it would have had stop tail studs. And, the low bridge height wrapped under implies a shallow neck angle to me as well.

I'd still take it, though!

I hoped you'd all realise I was kidding about the early 57' P90 being converted to 53' trap? I think that someone put a 57' serial# on it, people do the strangest things when they're " HIGH ".

mapleflame · 11-08-2009, 11:20 AM

I have seen trap guitars with 57 serial necks as well as 54 wraptails with a 57 serial. Renecks were common. I few sold on ebay over the last few years.

The ConGREGation · 11-09-2009, 07:30 PM

Here is my '52 all original all gold Les Paul.

shannon undery · 11-10-2009, 02:01 AM

Beautiful Les Paul ConGREGation.

Do you have any more photos.

Thanks

The ConGREGation · 11-10-2009, 05:54 AM

Give me till this week end, it is raining frogs here and she does not go out of sight on days like this.Greg

mapleflame · 11-10-2009, 12:06 PM

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jimi55lp · 11-10-2009, 01:12 PM

Nice 52'!

The ConGREGation · 11-12-2009, 04:21 PM

Here ya go....Greg.

shannon undery · 11-14-2009, 01:25 AM

Stunning

Thanks

jimi55lp · 11-17-2009, 10:30 AM

Thanks for the photos of your all gold, your switch tip looks like ivory.

moodyedge · 11-19-2009, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hedcrash

Does anyone besides me ever look at pictures from guitar shows of all the guitars up on stands precariously perched on folding tables and get nervous?

yeah they do look alarmingly shoddy platforms to stand gear like that on

jimi55lp · 11-19-2009, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diceman

A '57 would have had Humbuckers (except for the early ones?) - but it would definitely had a stop tail regardless of when it was built in '57 (99% of the time) - which makes me think it is a '53.

That said, my luthier has a stock '56 GT which has a trapeze on it - from the factory.

It is a strange duck. This COULD have been another like that.

If the above was a "conversion," though - it would have had stop tail studs. And, the low bridge height wrapped under implies a shallow neck angle to me as well.

I'd still take it, though!

Does your friend the luthier with the 1956 GT with a trapeze have overwrapping strings on the bar since the greater neck angle will permit that since 1954. The odd ball GT guitar in the first photo claiming to be 53'/57' is underwrapped by the strings which make no sense. This guitar would have all the adverse problems that the earlier GT's had and ES Models that over wrapped didn't have. Under wrapping the trapeze bar blocks palm muting and moves the trapeze when hit in any way while strumming, this special ordered trapeze seems out of place when installed on the already corrected greater angled neck that will let it over wrap with greater string pressure holding the trapeze in place and allowing palm muting.

The ConGREGation · 11-19-2009, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shannon undery

Stunning

Thanks

You are very welcome, she plays wonderfully as the faces of the few friends and peers that have played her were "
Priceless" to say the least.

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mapleflame V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Burke Va. Posts: 679 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 2 Posts	Re: 53/57 Goldtop Special order or had a reneck with a 57 serial. __________________ Gold and Flame in the house

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mapleflame V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Burke Va. Posts: 679 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 2 Posts	Re: 53/57 Goldtop I have seen trap guitars with 57 serial necks as well as 54 wraptails with a 57 serial. Renecks were common. I few sold on ebay over the last few years. __________________ Gold and Flame in the house

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The ConGREGation Owner of Greg's Guitars Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Atlanta ,Ga. Posts: 669 Thanks: 0 Thanked 14 Times in 5 Posts	Re: 53/57 Goldtop Here is my '52 all original all gold Les Paul. __________________ SPONSOR MLP FORUM The Vintage Guitar News and Views, Greg's Guitars monthly article to inform and to entertain you. An Atlanta based guitar, amplifier and effects pedal dealer. Vintage ,collectible,and players guitars.Check my website for updates and new listings as well as parts for your guitar,bass or amp.Thanks. Greg Mayo 770-337-9679 gregsguitars1@yahoo.com Owner of Greg's Guitars.

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shannon undery Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 320 Thanks: 25 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Re: 53/57 Goldtop Beautiful Les Paul ConGREGation. Do you have any more photos. Thanks

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The ConGREGation Owner of Greg's Guitars Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Atlanta ,Ga. Posts: 669 Thanks: 0 Thanked 14 Times in 5 Posts	Re: 53/57 Goldtop Give me till this week end, it is raining frogs here and she does not go out of sight on days like this.Greg __________________ SPONSOR MLP FORUM The Vintage Guitar News and Views, Greg's Guitars monthly article to inform and to entertain you. An Atlanta based guitar, amplifier and effects pedal dealer. Vintage ,collectible,and players guitars.Check my website for updates and new listings as well as parts for your guitar,bass or amp.Thanks. Greg Mayo 770-337-9679 gregsguitars1@yahoo.com Owner of Greg's Guitars.

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jimi55lp Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Metairie, Louisiana Posts: 392 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 53/57 Goldtop Nice 52'!

11-12-2009, 04:21 PM	#17 (permalink)
The ConGREGation Owner of Greg's Guitars Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Atlanta ,Ga. Posts: 669 Thanks: 0 Thanked 14 Times in 5 Posts	Re: 53/57 Goldtop Here ya go....Greg. __________________ SPONSOR MLP FORUM The Vintage Guitar News and Views, Greg's Guitars monthly article to inform and to entertain you. An Atlanta based guitar, amplifier and effects pedal dealer. Vintage ,collectible,and players guitars.Check my website for updates and new listings as well as parts for your guitar,bass or amp.Thanks. Greg Mayo 770-337-9679 gregsguitars1@yahoo.com Owner of Greg's Guitars.

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shannon undery Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 320 Thanks: 25 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Re: 53/57 Goldtop Stunning Thanks

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