Poll: Moore or Montrose who should keep it??

billy · 06-22-2009, 02:02 PM

Opinions seem to be very divided on who should get 9-2227 "stripe" So i thought i'd start this poll to see what you fellow forum members think....

So what do you think should (not what you think will) happen to the burst? should Gary get to keep it or should it be returned to Ronnie??

JimmyAce2006 · 06-22-2009, 02:13 PM

Heck no Gary shouldn't keep it. At what point did the guitar become un-stolen?

jbzoso2002 · 06-22-2009, 02:18 PM

Its Ronnie's guitar he should get it back.

Jimmy

River · 06-22-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyAce2006

Heck no Gary shouldn't keep it. At what point did the guitar become un-stolen?

+1
I don't see how this can be spun any other way.

rick13 · 06-22-2009, 03:00 PM

Moore already has it.....
Rick

Funkwire · 06-22-2009, 03:35 PM

Until I see some proof that it's the same guitar, I vote for Gary. The only pic I've seen of Ronnie playing the stolen guitar is too pixilated to say for sure it's the same guitar. And I still want to know why Ronnie waited until 2009 to take action...when it's been established that he has thought 'Stripe' is the guitar stolen from him since (at least) 2002.

ledfree · 06-22-2009, 04:14 PM

+1 for Gary Moore. Ronnie Montrose as known that G M may have had the stolen burst for over ten years. So you have to ask your self, why as it took so long to bring any action against Moore.
The only conclusion I can come up with. He as realised the value of the guitar and his looking for a pay day. IMO.

mokume · 06-22-2009, 04:24 PM

Moore

Luke122 · 06-22-2009, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ledfree

so you have to ask your self, why as it took so long to bring any action against moore.
The only conclusion i can come up his. He as realised the value of the guitar and his looking for a pay day. Imo.

+1

JimmyAce2006 · 06-22-2009, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ledfree

+1 for Gary Moore. Ronnie Montrose as known that G M may have had the stolen burst for over ten years. So you have to ask your self, why as it took so long to bring any action against Moore.
The only conclusion I can come up with. He as realised the value of the guitar and his looking for a pay day. IMO.

How does that change the fact that it is stolen? That does not justify keeping stolen goods.

Fletch · 06-22-2009, 07:11 PM

Ronnie Montrose. He's a way better player too, hands down.

fletch

PINKBITS · 06-22-2009, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch

Ronnie Montrose. He's a way better player too, hands down.

fletch

What does that have to do with anything.

I say Moore. Montrose has lived without it for 10 years already, he'll survive.

billy · 06-22-2009, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by PINKBITS

I say Moore. Montrose has lived without it for 10 years already, he'll survive.

It's almost been 40 years since Montrose had the guitar.... i'm surprised he can even remember it, he only had it for less than a year.

twinrider1 · 06-22-2009, 07:34 PM

Montrose, assuming he can prove it was his and he filed a police report at the time.

1959burst · 06-22-2009, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Funkwire

Until I see some proof that it's the same guitar, I vote for Gary. The only pic I've seen of Ronnie playing the stolen guitar is too pixilated to say for sure it's the same guitar. And I still want to know why Ronnie waited until 2009 to take action...when it's been established that he has thought 'Stripe' is the guitar stolen from him since (at least) 2002.

try 1990!!! or before

1959burst · 06-22-2009, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch

Ronnie Montrose. He's a way better player too, hands down.

fletch

in YOUR opinion

Fletch · 06-22-2009, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 1959burst

in YOUR opinion

just stirring the pot... I really haven't listened to either that much. Ronnie does kick some ass on some of the youtube videos I've seen... maybe I'll check out moore tonight.

but it IS RONNIE'S GUITAR

fletch

BMS · 06-22-2009, 09:11 PM

Montrose

because it is his until he decides to sell it and is the better player. Moore is a bum!

tonebone · 06-22-2009, 09:12 PM

It's Montrose's guitar.

It's a ripped off guitar in Moore's hands.

Why is everyone so quick to say "he waited 10 years". So there's been no contact between the two yet?

It's Montrose's guitar. He never sold it.

mrpesca · 06-22-2009, 09:40 PM

Gary Moore. He bought it unknowingly and it's been many years. It doesn't make it "un-stolen" but has it been proven beyond a doubt that it was actually stolen and that it is indeed the same guitar? All kinds of funny drunken deals were made back then. I'd venture to say that a lot of stars have "reasigned" instruments.

Maybe we should give the western United States back to the Mexicans, or better yet, the whole country back to the Native American Indians.

It's in Gary's possesion, maybe he should sell it to Montrose for what he paid for it. That would be fair.

JimmyAce2006 · 06-22-2009, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mrpesca

Gary Moore. He bought it unknowingly and it's been many years. It doesn't make it "un-stolen" but has it been proven beyond a doubt that it was actually stolen and that it is indeed the same guitar? .

YES.

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Originally Posted by mrpesca

Maybe we should give the western United States back to the Mexicans, or better yet, the whole country back to the Native American Indians.

Yeah, that's a valid comparison. I don't think Ronnie should pay one penny to get his own guitar back.

diceman · 06-22-2009, 10:22 PM

Legally, Montrose (depending on statute of limitations).

Personally - that is a tough call. I lean towards Montrose, but mostly because my notions of right and wrong are generally in agreement with the law. I see it both ways. It is a terrible situation. I wish they could find the guy that stole it in the first place and castrate him. As for sentimental attachment - Moore wins hands down. He's had it forever. Montrose could have purchased another 'burst after his was stolen for a reasonable amount of money. The same cannnot be said today.

Funkwire · 06-22-2009, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 1959burst

try 1990!!! or before

I know Gary has had Stripe since 1990 or before. But the only documentation I've seen that Montrose suspected Stripe was the guitar stolen in 1972 dates to 2002. Of course, it's possible he knew before then. Gary has never hidden that guitar from public view...

Fletch · 06-22-2009, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by diceman

Montrose could have purchased another 'burst after his was stolen for a reasonable amount of money. The same cannnot be said today.

actually he did.

diceman · 06-22-2009, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch

actually he did.

Excellent.

Moore would/will not have as easy a time of doing so today.

Fletch · 06-22-2009, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by diceman

Excellent.

Moore would/will not have as easy a time of doing so today.

actually that may not be true. there are plenty out there for sale it's just the prices they demand. If he has the coin, no problem.

yeti · 06-23-2009, 12:07 AM

I think the original owner whose home was burglarized while GM and RM where still shitting in their diapers should get it back

Just kidding, but has anyone, including Ronnie considered the possibility that it had already been stolen once or twice before Ronnie bought it?

Oh, and while we're at it... GM and RM should engage in a guitar duel to the deaf to determine if either one of them is really worthy of a Burst

AXE · 06-23-2009, 12:59 AM

Ronnie. It's his...

As far as a duel, that'd be tough. Ronnie still has his chops but his bout with brain cancer has taken some of the fire out of his playing. Which is understandable...

RCCola · 06-23-2009, 01:48 AM

This is ridiculous. We have very little information about this case. Unless you're directly involved with either party, you don't know squat and are just stating an uninformed opinion. How is that helpful?

If the applicable statute of limitations has expired, then the guitar would legally belong to Gary Moore. If you want to make up a word and call that 'unstolen', then it's possible for the guitar to be 'unstolen'.

tonebone · 06-23-2009, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RCCola

This is ridiculous. We have very little information about this case. Unless you're directly involved with either party, you don't know squat and are just stating an uninformed opinion. How is that helpful?

If the applicable statute of limitations has expired, then the guitar would legally belong to Gary Moore. If you want to make up a word and call that 'unstolen', then it's possible for the guitar to be 'unstolen'.

Doggone it Cola, do you have to be so logical?

Pesky statute of limitations, anyway...

View Poll Results: Your opinion on who should get 9-2227 "stripe"
Gary Moore	70	51.85%
Ronnie Montrose	65	48.15%
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06-22-2009, 02:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
billy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: England. Posts: 1,094 Thanks: 21 Thanked 22 Times in 7 Posts	Poll: Moore or Montrose who should keep it?? Opinions seem to be very divided on who should get 9-2227 "stripe" So i thought i'd start this poll to see what you fellow forum members think.... So what do you think should (not what you think will) happen to the burst? should Gary get to keep it or should it be returned to Ronnie??

06-22-2009, 02:13 PM	#2 (permalink)
JimmyAce2006 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,591 Thanks: 2 Thanked 51 Times in 15 Posts	Re: Poll: Moore or Montrose who should keep it?? Heck no Gary shouldn't keep it. At what point did the guitar become un-stolen?

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jbzoso2002 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: nw indianna Posts: 236 Thanks: 7 Thanked 9 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Poll: Moore or Montrose who should keep it?? Its Ronnie's guitar he should get it back. Jimmy

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rick13 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 335 Thanks: 0 Thanked 13 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Poll: Moore or Montrose who should keep it?? Moore already has it..... Rick

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06-22-2009, 03:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
Funkwire Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 166 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Poll: Moore or Montrose who should keep it?? Until I see some proof that it's the same guitar, I vote for Gary. The only pic I've seen of Ronnie playing the stolen guitar is too pixilated to say for sure it's the same guitar. And I still want to know why Ronnie waited until 2009 to take action...when it's been established that he has thought 'Stripe' is the guitar stolen from him since (at least) 2002. __________________ Michael in St Paul the band my Soundclick

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ledfree Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Staffordshire, UK Posts: 1,248 Thanks: 16 Thanked 6 Times in 1 Post	Re: Poll: Moore or Montrose who should keep it?? +1 for Gary Moore. Ronnie Montrose as known that G M may have had the stolen burst for over ten years. So you have to ask your self, why as it took so long to bring any action against Moore. The only conclusion I can come up with. He as realised the value of the guitar and his looking for a pay day. IMO. __________________ Objects in the mirror may be more stupider than they appear. Small print: I reserve the right to change my mind at any time. In other words I'm always right, so there.

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mokume Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 79 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Poll: Moore or Montrose who should keep it?? Moore __________________ 1969 Les Paul Custom 1985 Les Paul Custom 1989 Les Paul 59 Reissue 1991 Les Paul Standard 2008 Les Paul VOS G0

06-22-2009, 07:11 PM	#11 (permalink)
Fletch Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 754 Thanks: 1 Thanked 10 Times in 1 Post	Re: Poll: Moore or Montrose who should keep it?? Ronnie Montrose. He's a way better player too, hands down. fletch

06-22-2009, 07:34 PM	#14 (permalink)
twinrider1 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,278 Thanks: 44 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Poll: Moore or Montrose who should keep it?? Montrose, assuming he can prove it was his and he filed a police report at the time.

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BMS Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 364 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Poll: Moore or Montrose who should keep it?? Montrose because it is his until he decides to sell it and is the better player. Moore is a bum! __________________ I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve. www.myspace.com/rockwithbadmotorscooter http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/memb...lbums-bfg.html http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/memb...ny-terror.html http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/memb...bums-gear.html

06-22-2009, 09:12 PM	#19 (permalink)
tonebone Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: West Coast Posts: 1,307 Thanks: 10 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Poll: Moore or Montrose who should keep it?? It's Montrose's guitar. It's a ripped off guitar in Moore's hands. Why is everyone so quick to say "he waited 10 years". So there's been no contact between the two yet? It's Montrose's guitar. He never sold it. __________________ there's something about seeing a bone-thin Page making love to that Gibson, sweat-soaked, scraggly hair flying, after all, in the end, it's only the music that matters...

06-22-2009, 09:40 PM	#20 (permalink)
mrpesca Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: San Diego Posts: 3,437 Thanks: 15 Thanked 61 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Poll: Moore or Montrose who should keep it?? Gary Moore. He bought it unknowingly and it's been many years. It doesn't make it "un-stolen" but has it been proven beyond a doubt that it was actually stolen and that it is indeed the same guitar? All kinds of funny drunken deals were made back then. I'd venture to say that a lot of stars have "reasigned" instruments. Maybe we should give the western United States back to the Mexicans, or better yet, the whole country back to the Native American Indians. It's in Gary's possesion, maybe he should sell it to Montrose for what he paid for it. That would be fair.

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diceman V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 15,856 Thanks: 269 Thanked 80 Times in 30 Posts	Re: Poll: Moore or Montrose who should keep it?? Legally, Montrose (depending on statute of limitations). Personally - that is a tough call. I lean towards Montrose, but mostly because my notions of right and wrong are generally in agreement with the law. I see it both ways. It is a terrible situation. I wish they could find the guy that stole it in the first place and castrate him. As for sentimental attachment - Moore wins hands down. He's had it forever. Montrose could have purchased another 'burst after his was stolen for a reasonable amount of money. The same cannnot be said today. __________________ My Band: www.comeupswingingmusic.com or www.myspace.com/comeupswinging

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yeti Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 74 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Poll: Moore or Montrose who should keep it?? I think the original owner whose home was burglarized while GM and RM where still shitting in their diapers should get it back Just kidding, but has anyone, including Ronnie considered the possibility that it had already been stolen once or twice before Ronnie bought it? Oh, and while we're at it... GM and RM should engage in a guitar duel to the deaf to determine if either one of them is really worthy of a Burst

06-23-2009, 12:59 AM	#28 (permalink)
AXE V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 9,359 Thanks: 515 Thanked 228 Times in 66 Posts	Re: Poll: Moore or Montrose who should keep it?? Ronnie. It's his... As far as a duel, that'd be tough. Ronnie still has his chops but his bout with brain cancer has taken some of the fire out of his playing. Which is understandable... __________________ Never argue with idiots. First they drag you down to their level, then they beat you with experience.

06-23-2009, 01:48 AM	#29 (permalink)
RCCola Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 734 Thanks: 5 Thanked 5 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Poll: Moore or Montrose who should keep it?? This is ridiculous. We have very little information about this case. Unless you're directly involved with either party, you don't know squat and are just stating an uninformed opinion. How is that helpful? If the applicable statute of limitations has expired, then the guitar would legally belong to Gary Moore. If you want to make up a word and call that 'unstolen', then it's possible for the guitar to be 'unstolen'.

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