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Unread 11-29-2008, 08:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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brock/dapra burst....

i'm not a noob but what exactly sets the brock/dapra burst from others?
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Unread 11-29-2008, 09:17 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: brock/dapra burst....

The Brock/DaPra Burst (9 0913)
The way the colors were shot, some call this the "Technique”
was unusual. It gives the guitar a special beauty. It is not typical
of burst paint jobs.




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Re: brock/dapra burst....

heres one
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Re: brock/dapra burst....

I've never cared much for the color and flame on the Brock Burst !!! Color is too brown and flame is too fat !!! Now this is the ultimate Burst !!!

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Re: brock/dapra burst....

How about these as examples of great flame tops?





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Re: brock/dapra burst....

Definitley some alternatives available to those that have got the money!

Got to love that first one, Rich. Between the pickups where the flame goes wide on one half and not the other... Does things to me... My kind of 'burst...

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Re: brock/dapra burst....

I personally really like the Brockburst
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Re: brock/dapra burst....

My Brockburst 03R9



I like it MUCH better than my washed cherry burst R8.

I like both the darker and the brighter top finish on this guitar. Depending on what lighting you're looking at it with it can look almost like two different guitars.

Here's the same guitar under indoor lighting:

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Re: brock/dapra burst....

heres some burstness
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Re: brock/dapra burst....

9_0913 is a VERY significant guitar. Not only from it's colour which seems to be very deep cherry with a lot of blue in it making it quite burgundy. Not darkburst like it looks in BOTB and certainly not brown but just a very vivid cherry that's dark enough not to look garish. The figure is extremely unusual in a bunch of areas on the top, the lozengey thing between the pickups, the diagonal secondary flame sweeping behind the tailpiece, not a dead spot but another wave of flame that cuts through the first, but also it's truly bookmatched and quartersawn a very rare quality in a burst. Because it's quartersawn AND has strong flame I don't think it has any bad angles, the flame is strong from EVERY angle. It obviously isn't to everyone's taste, if your the sort of person who gets off on bursts with cheap, un-matched, mineral streaky wood then your not going to get it, it's just TOO pretty. Personally I don't really like bursts with any red in them but I'll make an exception for this one.
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Re: brock/dapra burst....

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It obviously isn't to everyone's taste, if your the sort of person who gets off on bursts with cheap, un-matched, mineral streaky wood then your not going to get it,


Could be me!
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Re: brock/dapra burst....

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Is it just me or does the pic of that guy kissing that Brock/Dapra burst look like he couldn't afford a historic much less a burst? I mean he's in a very small room with a single bed, small amp, funky wall art. I dunno I hate to judge anyone but that just doesn't seem right to me.
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Re: brock/dapra burst....

I don’t know.
Bed, Amps, Half Million Dollar Burst.
What else do you Really need?
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Re: brock/dapra burst....

Probably taken a while back. Is that Brian Brock by any chance?

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I mean he's in a very small room with a single bed, small amp, funky wall art. I dunno I hate to judge anyone but that just doesn't seem right to me.
What's wrong with it? The small amp on the right is an original tweed Fender. Nice interesting looking 1 pickup semi. Gibson or Epi at a guess.

Looks like a man who knows what his priorities are, in a photo taken when Vintage Les Pauls were perhaps a little more affordable than they are now.
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Re: brock/dapra burst....

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Is it just me or does the pic of that guy kissing that Brock/Dapra burst look like he couldn't afford a historic much less a burst? I mean he's in a very small room with a single bed, small amp, funky wall art. I dunno I hate to judge anyone but that just doesn't seem right to me.

edit: It took a moment to realize where I had seen this pic credited as a young Vic Dapra. It's actually Nick Carras at Gil Southworth's residence. Talk about conflict in lifestyle! This pic was taken in 1986.

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Re: brock/dapra burst....

That's a young Vic Da Pra? Picture must have been a while back as he had filled out quite a bit in the face even when his "'Burst" book came out. (1994). But then so have I, so can't point the finger...

Seeing as it's him I'll reiterate what I said before: a man who knows what his priorities are.

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Re: brock/dapra burst....

My bad. That's Nick Carras. Someone posted that pic elsewhere and I was surprised it was credited as Dapra as well. Even more surprising is that it was said to taken at Gil Southworth's residence!
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Re: brock/dapra burst....

Brian is a very good friend of mine. He likes his privacy but still wheels and deals. He has had many more bursts than that one. Very interesting story behind the Brock burst - most is hogwash. We bought this together:

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Re: brock/dapra burst....

I'm looking at having my R8 refinished by RS in a "Brock Burst" (I'm wanting to get "real" nitro on my R8, so that the finish will do what it is supposed to do - I figure that I'll get the color I want while I'm at it). Mine is a plain top, so I'm really not trying to make a "replica" of the Brock Burst - I just love the color.

Does anyone else have any good pix of the Brock Burst or any similarly finished 'Bursts / Historics?

Is the Brockburst just a faded Darkburst? Some of the DB's in BOTB look very close - while others look almost tobacco burst dark. Is the Darkburst red a darker shade than cherryburst, or is it just applied heavier?
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Re: brock/dapra burst....

This one is so unique. The color, the flame, everything. Usually you see a few in the serial range that look similar. I looked at burstserial.com/BOTB etc. and didn't see any that resemble the Brock. Perhaps it's how it aged because there are other dark cherry's in the range. The flame reminds me of the back of a Stradivarius. Musical artistry.
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My Brockburst 03R9

http://www.helidriver.com/guitars/03R9/03R9.jpg

I like it MUCH better than my washed cherry burst R8.

I like both the darker and the brighter top finish on this guitar. Depending on what lighting you're looking at it with it can look almost like two different guitars.

Here's the same guitar under indoor lighting:

http://www.helidriver.com/guitars/03...9Marshall1.jpg
Thats a really nice one,I want a R9 that looks just like that
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Re: brock/dapra burst....

RI's still miss the wide burst band on the lower bout. nice axe/color for sure.
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RI's still miss the wide burst band on the lower bout. nice axe/color for sure.
I've seen a few Historics with very old school looking tops but there's not a lot of them with that wide burst band, man those do look nice.


I wonder how many brockburst vintage "bursts" were actually made? Was the Brock/DaPra unique? I've never seen any other brock finishes on a vintage burst other than that one. I don't think they kept records to that detail did they?
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Re: brock/dapra burst....

Thanks for the educated answer John!
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9_0913 is a VERY significant guitar. Not only from it's colour which seems to be very deep cherry with a lot of blue in it making it quite burgundy. Not darkburst like it looks in BOTB and certainly not brown but just a very vivid cherry that's dark enough not to look garish. The figure is extremely unusual in a bunch of areas on the top, the lozengey thing between the pickups, the diagonal secondary flame sweeping behind the tailpiece, not a dead spot but another wave of flame that cuts through the first, but also it's truly bookmatched and quartersawn a very rare quality in a burst. Because it's quartersawn AND has strong flame I don't think it has any bad angles, the flame is strong from EVERY angle. It obviously isn't to everyone's taste, if your the sort of person who gets off on bursts with cheap, un-matched, mineral streaky wood then your not going to get it, it's just TOO pretty. Personally I don't really like bursts with any red in them but I'll make an exception for this one.
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Re: brock/dapra burst....

Does Vic DaPra still own it, if not who does?
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