P90 Soapbar to dogear conversion

reedy · 03-15-2012, 03:19 PM

Just wondering if anyone has done this and how difficult it is?

charlie chitlins · 03-15-2012, 03:27 PM

And the point of this exercise would be...?
Purely cosmetic?

27sauce · 03-15-2012, 03:39 PM

Its easy, just change the baseplate.

SKATTERBRANE · 03-15-2012, 03:48 PM

Yep, it you have a soapbar P90 that needs to go in a guitar that requires dogears, simply transfer the inner workings on a dogear base plate, get a dogear cover and you are set! (oh, and mounting screws for a dogear too)

reedy · 03-15-2012, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie chitlins

And the point of this exercise would be...?
Purely cosmetic?

The point is that I have a old Soapbar that I'd like to use as a dogear.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKATTERBRANE

Yep, it you have a soapbar P90 that needs to go in a guitar that requires dogears, simply transfer the inner workings on a dogear base plate, get a dogear cover and you are set! (oh, and mounting screws for a dogear too)

Will any baseplate fit or have the specs changed over time? The soapbar is from the late '50's to early '60's

toxpert · 03-15-2012, 06:47 PM

Why not just put a dogear cover on and then you're done. It's been learned that some 50s LP juniors, for instance, have regular P-90 pickup (including baseplate) lurking under a dogear cover.

Makes it a pretty simple process.

slapshot · 03-15-2012, 06:52 PM

i use soap bars in my juniors ect with a dogear cover over the top

charlie chitlins · 03-16-2012, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reedy

The point is that I have a old Soapbar that I'd like to use as a dogear.

Gotcha...I was imagining that you had a guitar with soapbars and you wanted to put dogears in it.
Duh.
Now back to your regularly-scheduled program.

mapleflame · 03-16-2012, 08:13 AM

A soap bar can be used for a solidbodied P90 rout but not for a Hollow bodied guitar. A dogear P90 has a different screw bar underneath the bobbin which will not have the screw holes drilled out for the two inner mounting screw holes. The base plate and screw bar are different. It can be drilled out, but the heat can melt the bobbin and hurt the winding. I have seen people take the wings off of Dog ear baseplate, but still have to replace the polescrew bar. Some dogear P90 bobbins have the two inner screw holes, but not on the bar and base plate. When searching for P90's on the web all these things have to be considered.

reedy · 03-16-2012, 10:59 AM

Thanks for the info guys. I had no idea that you could put a soapbar in the rout with a dogear cover over the top. I thought it would have been too tall as soapbars usually have spacers that dog ears don't. I'm going to give it a try. That said, if anyone has an old dogear baseplate they don't mind parting with shoot me a PM.

27sauce · 03-16-2012, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reedy

Thanks for the info guys. I had no idea that you could put a soapbar in the rout with a dogear cover over the top. I thought it would have been too tall as soapbars usually have spacers that dog ears don't. I'm going to give it a try. That said, if anyone has an old dogear baseplate they don't mind parting with shoot me a PM.

There were some '58 Juniors shipped with soapbars under dog ear covers, from the factory.

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mapleflame V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Burke Va. Posts: 2,446 Thanks: 0 Thanked 107 Times in 26 Posts	Re: P90 Soapbar to dogear conversion A soap bar can be used for a solidbodied P90 rout but not for a Hollow bodied guitar. A dogear P90 has a different screw bar underneath the bobbin which will not have the screw holes drilled out for the two inner mounting screw holes. The base plate and screw bar are different. It can be drilled out, but the heat can melt the bobbin and hurt the winding. I have seen people take the wings off of Dog ear baseplate, but still have to replace the polescrew bar. Some dogear P90 bobbins have the two inner screw holes, but not on the bar and base plate. When searching for P90's on the web all these things have to be considered. __________________ No thank you to Burst I'll Bronze instead. I just love the green left on my arm in the morning. It Looks Like Victory.

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reedy Bartlett Retrospec Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Victoria BC. Canada Posts: 202 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: P90 Soapbar to dogear conversion Thanks for the info guys. I had no idea that you could put a soapbar in the rout with a dogear cover over the top. I thought it would have been too tall as soapbars usually have spacers that dog ears don't. I'm going to give it a try. That said, if anyone has an old dogear baseplate they don't mind parting with shoot me a PM.

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