Les Paul Switchcraft Toggle Switch History

HolyGrail · 03-18-2007, 02:26 AM

Les Paul Switchcraft Toggle Switch History

This History has never been listed on any Forum Before.

Re: Switchcraft Toggle switches

The logo does not appear until around 61/62....
Soon after the ball changes to black instead of clear.

If anyone has a pre 61~62 Genuine 3 Pickup Switchcraft No Name switch,
Please tell me , so I can replace the repro with the 3rd blade Switch. Thanks !

Shout out for Tech and Quality Vintage Facts.
Come on Bart !

***FLICKOFLASH*** · 03-19-2007, 01:23 AM

Great pix & cool facts

ptate · 03-19-2007, 08:20 AM

Cool.

I bought one of those 61-62's a while ago for $10. Looking for the same thing, an unmolested, unmarked early one.

Wish more folks would put up some potted histories of the small parts. It all helps identify what you've got.

mapleflame · 03-19-2007, 09:32 AM

great sequence of the production change. Thanks

HolyGrail · 03-19-2007, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapleflame

great sequence of the production change. Thanks

Thanks Maple !

I've asked Burstmeup to come on over and do some.
His displays are excellent and over at skid row, they just talk
Smack behind his Back.

mapleflame · 03-19-2007, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HolyGrail

Thanks Maple !

I've asked Burstmeup to come on over and do some.
His displays are excellent and over at skid row, they just talk
Smack behind his Back.

You know what, I have worked very hard in my life to have a stress free environment. I got rid of all aquaintences, friends, people that create or give me unwanted stress. A lot of the time the guys over there have no life and just want to rant or put down because their bored. If I am wrong pointing something out with a Les Paul just say that is incorrect, I think this is the right answer and spell it out. When I grew up in Brooklyn you know how we handled things, very simple and I will leave it at that. I have zero tolerance for a person who thinks there are the shit behind a computer screen. I just want a friendly discussion board and have fun. I am hoping that we can create that here. That is enough of my rant, and lets get back to parts, electronics and of course Les Pauls.

HolyGrail · 03-19-2007, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapleflame

You know what, I have worked very hard in my life to have a stress free environment. I got rid of all aquaintences, friends, people that create or give me unwanted stress. A lot of the time the guys over there have no life and just want to rant or put down because their bored. If I am wrong pointing something out with a Les Paul just say that is incorrect, I think this is the right answer and spell it out. When I grew up in Brooklyn you know how we handled things, very simple and I will leave it at that. I have zero tolerance for a person who thinks there are the shit behind a computer screen. I just want a friendly discussion board and have fun. I am hoping that we can create that here. That is enough of my rant, and lets get back to parts, electronics and of course Les Pauls.

Maple~ ( Ima Brooklyn kid Too ) Point taken . That's why I live behind
Huge gates. I told some certain somebody that we'll meet one day and I'll leave it at that .

Of course, He didn't respond ! Howya figger that ?

I Wanna R O C K !

ptate · 03-19-2007, 04:13 PM

It's nice to see some real fans of the Les Paul rather than bickering, anal t**spots.

I've begun taking the p*ss out of the "mines better than yours" lot over there and having a laugh at their expense. Don't think I'll be inviting anyone else to join from there.

Nice to see you over here Maple.....Hows the "dirty" GT doin? Sound nice?

Aren't we here to play them and enjoy?.......That's what I do.

mapleflame · 03-19-2007, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptate

It's nice to see some real fans of the Les Paul rather than bickering, anal t**spots.

I've begun taking the p*ss out of the "mines better than yours" lot over there and having a laugh at their expense. Don't think I'll be inviting anyone else to join from there.

Nice to see you over here Maple.....Hows the "dirty" GT doin? Sound nice?

Aren't we here to play them and enjoy?.......That's what I do.

I love it Bro, I just got some pigtail saddles for it and put them in the original bridge, what a difference. I can't put that guitar down. I think you gave me my name for her "GT Dirty". I too look forward to playing these wonderful instraments, I consider my self beyond lucky. Good to hear from ya.

ptate · 03-21-2007, 08:13 AM

looking forward to getting my well worn '70 Deluxe. It's on it's way from the "Good Ole" as we speak. Nice rough, worn finish (similar to yours- slightly more arm wear) and looks nice and grubby (seems to have a scum line around the volute- nice!

jimi55lp · 04-02-2007, 01:48 PM

You know , I bet you could find those no name switchcrafts 3 ways at that "partsdrawer" guy in Jersey, just take a trip over to the Garden State!

HolyGrail · 04-02-2007, 04:00 PM

Jim's a smart guy.
He knows the market value of his parts.

Claptone · 04-07-2007, 07:16 PM

Very nice HolyGrail.

Education about appointments in parts is key.

HolyGrail · 04-07-2007, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claptone

Very nice HolyGrail.

Education about appointments in parts is key.

Welcome Bro !~

HeeBGB · 04-07-2007, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimi55lp

You know , I bet you could find those no name switchcrafts 3 ways at that "partsdrawer" guy in Jersey, just take a trip over to the Garden State!

What?, Who?, Where? I am in the Garden State. What parts drawer guy? I need parts for my 53 Conversion! Please help a brother out!

HolyGrail · 04-08-2007, 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeeBGB

What?, Who?, Where? I am in the Garden State. What parts drawer guy? I need parts for my 53 Conversion! Please help a brother out!

Whata ya need ? I got plenty .

Claptone · 04-08-2007, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HolyGrail

Welcome Bro !~

Thanks Grail, I'll be getting you know what very soon man.

Get ahold of me later.

HeeBGB · 04-08-2007, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HolyGrail

Whata ya need ? I got plenty .

I need everything! I only got wood when I bought the guitar! Was talkin to BCRGreg about a Pigtail ABR, tail and studs on friday! I'm gonna need all the EElectronics and plastic! Strap buttons and Tuners! Unfortunately original stuff might be out of my price range BUT I'd still like to see what ya got and maybe I can swing it as I still have at least 5 months (I think) before Dave Johnson needs parts from me!

Check your PM's

HolyGrail · 04-09-2007, 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeeBGB

I need everything! I only got wood when I bought the guitar! Was talkin to BCRGreg about a Pigtail ABR, tail and studs on friday! I'm gonna need all the EElectronics and plastic! Strap buttons and Tuners! Unfortunately original stuff might be out of my price range BUT I'd still like to see what ya got and maybe I can swing it as I still have at least 5 months (I think) before Dave Johnson needs parts from me!

Check your PM's

I can't argue with going with Steve's parts first.

Plastic, I can point you to the best , I have some genuine electronics
at a fair price. Send me your email address and I'll call you .

Regards
Hal

delawaregold · 09-01-2007, 11:00 AM

Great post, HolyGrail! Well written. All your statements are supported
by documentation. A pleasure to read. Please do more.

***FLICKOFLASH*** · 10-10-2007, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HolyGrail

Les Paul Switchcraft Toggle Switch History

This History has never been listed on any Forum Before.

Re: Switchcraft Toggle switches

The logo does not appear until around 61/62....
Soon after the ball changes to black instead of clear.

If anyone has a pre 61~62 Genuine 3 Pickup Switchcraft No Name switch,
Please tell me , so I can replace the repro with the 3rd blade Switch. Thanks !

Shout out for Tech and Quality Vintage Facts.
Come on Bart !

Did I do well for 41.00

lp59aholicDon · 10-10-2007, 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapleflame

You know what, I have worked very hard in my life to have a stress free environment. I got rid of all aquaintences, friends, people that create or give me unwanted stress. A lot of the time the guys over there have no life and just want to rant or put down because their bored. If I am wrong pointing something out with a Les Paul just say that is incorrect, I think this is the right answer and spell it out. When I grew up in Brooklyn you know how we handled things, very simple and I will leave it at that. I have zero tolerance for a person who thinks there are the shit behind a computer screen. I just want a friendly discussion board and have fun. I am hoping that we can create that here. That is enough of my rant, and lets get back to parts, electronics and of course Les Pauls.

Great Rant, Thats another reason why I love this forum, I havent run across any major nasty tudes, and I so agree Maple

Thanks to Holy Also for the good history lesson

HolyGrail · 10-17-2007, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FLICKOFLASH

Did I do well for 41.00

Wow Flick !

A Real 50's Switchcraft Toggle Switch & a Real
50's Tip for $41.00 ?????????????????

Lets see if you did well ! 50's Toggle $125. Minimum price for a 50's tip $300.00
and you paid $ 41.00

I think you was robbed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You Rube !

Axeman16 · 10-19-2007, 05:44 PM

were they switchcraft swirches that werent branded or were they another company?

HolyGrail · 10-19-2007, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axeman16

were they switchcraft swirches that werent branded or were they another company?

50's Switchcraft
They didn't have the name on them until 60's

Read the top post I explain it all.

Mike60 · 10-19-2007, 06:33 PM

...what about the Specials and ES switches...any info?...I have some pics...or should this be a separate discussion?...

HolyGrail · 10-19-2007, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike60

...what about the Specials and ES switches...any info?...I have some pics...or should this be a separate discussion?...

Mike Post away ! More info the better !

RobertD · 10-19-2007, 09:12 PM

I was bidding on that but forgot about it closing that day. Doh!

HolyGrail · 10-19-2007, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobertD

I was bidding on that but forgot about it closing that day. Doh!

Ya gotta get up pretty early to beat out Flick !

He Ain't our Super Mod for Nuth'n !

mapleflame · 11-18-2007, 07:59 PM

Flick can find a needle in two haystacks

03-18-2007, 02:26 AM	#1 (permalink)
HolyGrail V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Beach to the Desert . Posts: 1,142 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Les Paul Switchcraft Toggle Switch History Les Paul Switchcraft Toggle Switch History This History has never been listed on any Forum Before. Re: Switchcraft Toggle switches The logo does not appear until around 61/62.... Soon after the ball changes to black instead of clear. If anyone has a pre 61~62 Genuine 3 Pickup Switchcraft No Name switch, Please tell me , so I can replace the repro with the 3rd blade Switch. Thanks ! Shout out for Tech and Quality Vintage Facts. Come on Bart ! Last edited by FLICKOFLASH; 11-01-2007 at 05:59 AM. Reason: Shout out for Tech and Quality Vintage Facts.

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mapleflame V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Burke Va. Posts: 679 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 2 Posts	great sequence of the production change. Thanks __________________ Gold and Flame in the house

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jimi55lp Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Metairie, Louisiana Posts: 394 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Les Paul Switchcraft Toggle Switch History You know , I bet you could find those no name switchcrafts 3 ways at that "partsdrawer" guy in Jersey, just take a trip over to the Garden State!

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HolyGrail V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Beach to the Desert . Posts: 1,142 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Les Paul Switchcraft Toggle Switch History Jim's a smart guy. He knows the market value of his parts.

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Claptone Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 84 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Les Paul Switchcraft Toggle Switch History Very nice HolyGrail. Education about appointments in parts is key.

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*FLICKOFLASH* Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hagerstown,MD USA Posts: 14,391 Thanks: 334 Thanked 530 Times in 113 Posts	Great pix & cool facts

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ptate V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bolton, Lancs, UK Posts: 344 Thanks: 0 Thanked 11 Times in 2 Posts	Cool. I bought one of those 61-62's a while ago for $10. Looking for the same thing, an unmolested, unmarked early one. Wish more folks would put up some potted histories of the small parts. It all helps identify what you've got.

03-19-2007, 04:13 PM	#8 (permalink)
ptate V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bolton, Lancs, UK Posts: 344 Thanks: 0 Thanked 11 Times in 2 Posts	It's nice to see some real fans of the Les Paul rather than bickering, anal t*spots. I've begun taking the pss out of the "mines better than yours" lot over there and having a laugh at their expense. Don't think I'll be inviting anyone else to join from there. Nice to see you over here Maple.....Hows the "dirty" GT doin? Sound nice? Aren't we here to play them and enjoy?.......That's what I do.

03-21-2007, 08:13 AM	#10 (permalink)
ptate V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bolton, Lancs, UK Posts: 344 Thanks: 0 Thanked 11 Times in 2 Posts	looking forward to getting my well worn '70 Deluxe. It's on it's way from the "Good Ole" as we speak. Nice rough, worn finish (similar to yours- slightly more arm wear) and looks nice and grubby (seems to have a scum line around the volute- nice!

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delawaregold V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: DELAWARE Posts: 1,337 Thanks: 32 Thanked 64 Times in 16 Posts	Re: Les Paul Switchcraft Toggle Switch History Great post, HolyGrail! Well written. All your statements are supported by documentation. A pleasure to read. Please do more. __________________ The original Idiot Savant

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Axeman16 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 2,079 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Les Paul Switchcraft Toggle Switch History were they switchcraft swirches that werent branded or were they another company?

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RobertD Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nashville Posts: 148 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Les Paul Switchcraft Toggle Switch History I was bidding on that but forgot about it closing that day. Doh!

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mapleflame V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Burke Va. Posts: 679 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Les Paul Switchcraft Toggle Switch History Flick can find a needle in two haystacks __________________ Gold and Flame in the house

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