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Old 02-13-2010, 07:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Wah pedal problem

so ive been playing around with my Crybaby pedal and it seems to be really changing my tone... when its on no matter what position its in it sounds like its in a tunnel.. thats the best way i can describe it, most live bands ive seen when they use wah it doest change the tone so drastically..... the other pedals in the chain are a boss tuner and a digitech metal master have i done something wrong?
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Old 02-13-2010, 07:35 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Wah pedal problem

where do you have the wah in your chain of fx? do you power it with batteries or a power supply?
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Old 02-13-2010, 07:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Wah pedal problem

its last in the chain.... after the distortion and they're all on ac adapters
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Re: Wah pedal problem

should be first or second in the chain. I put my Big Muff first, then my wah, then my od, chorusy-modulation effects, volume pedal, delay, reverb... etc.
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Re: Wah pedal problem

Even if you have the wah off, it's still having a negative effect on you tone as your signal is still going through a good number of the components.

You can fix this with a true bypass looper or by modding your wah to true bypass. You can find the instructions for the latter with a quick Google search.

I also agree that the wah should be first or second in the chain. My setup runs Guitar->tuner->wah->compressor->OD->Delay->Amp. Just my personal tastes though. I know a lot of guys run their distortion/OD before their wahs.
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Re: Wah pedal problem

As the others have said, try bringing it up in the chain. It's an experimentation and personal preference thing, but I have the wah first. I have the tuner outside the chain.

If that doesn't work, just try the wah between the guitar and amp and see if you're still getting strange noises out of it.

Have a look at something like this

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Re: Wah pedal problem

I'm selling the guts of a Wah with a true bypass mod, and numerous others to take the brittle high end off and make it mellow with a smoother transition. Think Hendrix.

Check my previous threads for more info.
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Re: Wah pedal problem

To be honest, it's the whole chain...


Tuners are notorius for sucking the tone right out, and the "metal master" and wah probably aren't helping.

"True Bypass" in the wah won't help, because you still have to battle whatever circuitry is in the "metal master" and the tuner.

What needs to be first in the chain is a true-bypass A/B box---the true-bypass of the A/B box will act like nothing is between your guitar and the 1st pedal of your chain, whatever it is.

So, if you use an A/B box, the 'A' side goes to the tuner, and the 'B' side going out to the rest of your chain... But the big improvement is getting that tone-sucking Tuner out of your signal's chain...

The DigiTech ^MetalMaster^ probably has a buffer in it (that will help add a little "extra" to the signal), so if it were me, my chain would look like this:


Guitar
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A / B---->MetalMaster--->Wah--->Amp
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Tuner




I run my EFX like this:

Guitar--> Clean Boost pedals --> OverDrive pedals --> Distortion pedals --> Fuzz Pedals --> EQ pedals (wah, graphic, parametric, etc.) --> Modulation pedals (phaser, univibe) --> Time-Based EFX (flanger, chorus, delay, reverb).



But really, any way that works for you is the right way...try every combination out til you find out what works...
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Re: Wah pedal problem

Dont shoot the messenger, but Crybaby's are crap. Tone sucker to the max.
Go Fulltone, or some other wah that has true bypass.
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Re: Wah pedal problem

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Dont shoot the messenger, but Crybaby's are crap. Tone sucker to the max.
Go Fulltone, or some other wah that has true bypass.
That is true, but the real culprit is the tuner.
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