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Unread 12-27-2009, 10:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Opinions please..betw 57's and burstbuckers

I am in need of some help with deciding something. I know these will be opinions and that's what I want. I play mostly hard rock, grunge, metal, alternative and I want to know between the burstbucker 1 and 2 or the Classic 57's what does the job better.

I know the 57's are great pickups but I am hearing mainly for blues and jazz.
I like blues but hate jazz. The Burstbucker 1 and 2 set I am curious to know if they would do the job better the the 57's for the style of music I mentioned above.

Or I was thinking of keeping the 57 plus in the bridge and getting a burstbucker 1 for the neck.
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Unread 12-27-2009, 10:15 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Opinions please..betw 57's and burstbuckers

The 57 classics will do any kind of music IMO
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Re: Opinions please..betw 57's and burstbuckers

Just out curiosity why are your choices between those pickups? The 57s are good pickups though I don't know if you'll be able to pull off metal with them without boosting your signal a bit. But Gibson pickups are expensive compared to Seymour Duncans and Dimarzios and they (Seymour Duncan and Dimarzio that is) have a much broader range of pickups to choose from.
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Re: Opinions please..betw 57's and burstbuckers

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Just out curiosity why are your choices between those pickups? The 57s are good pickups though I don't know if you'll be able to pull off metal with them without boosting your signal a bit. But Gibson pickups are expensive compared to Seymour Duncans and Dimarzios and they (Seymour Duncan and Dimarzio that is) have a much broader range of pickups to choose from.
I would like to keep Gibson pickups in my Trad. But are not sure if the Burstbuckers can pull off the style's I mentioned or not. If they don't I guess I would have to look elsewhere.
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Re: Opinions please..betw 57's and burstbuckers

Personally?

I like the BB's in the neck and the '57's in the bridge....Why not do both, Ides?
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Re: Opinions please..betw 57's and burstbuckers

I think there's a lot of variables to consider, such as what amp are you running thru, what is in between your amp and the guitar (pedals, etc.) and what are they all set at, and most importantly what is your idea of what metal, grunge, etc. is supposed to sound like.
Any pickup can be manipulated in some degree by pedals or the amp.
That being said, I love the '57's in my Traditional. Never really played Bustbuckers, but based on sound clips I think I like the 57's better.
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Re: Opinions please..betw 57's and burstbuckers

Gibson 57 Classic plus (bridge) and the 57 classic (neck)

Some guy playing metal with Seymour Duncan Jazz pickups, both bridge and neck and they´re low output, think he had a Mesa Boogie rectifier, not sure http://soundclick.com/share?songid=2195827
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Re: Opinions please..betw 57's and burstbuckers

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I like the BB's in the neck and the '57's in the bridge....Why not do both, Ides?
That is what I was thinking Sentry. But what BB in the neck? 1,2,3?
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Re: Opinions please..betw 57's and burstbuckers

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I think there's a lot of variables to consider, such as what amp are you running thru, what is in between your amp and the guitar (pedals, etc.) and what are they all set at, and most importantly what is your idea of what metal, grunge, etc. is supposed to sound like.
Any pickup can be manipulated in some degree by pedals or the amp.
That being said, I love the '57's in my Traditional. Never really played Bustbuckers, but based on sound clips I think I like the 57's better.
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Re: Opinions please..betw 57's and burstbuckers

I have a BB1 (neck) & 57 Classic (bridge) in mine. Was thinking of switching to a higher output bridge but I really like it the way it is and I am staying put.
I don't play much metal but the 57 classic can certainly handle the high gain tones just fine when I'm in the mood. Keep in mind, the 57 is wax potted and the BBs are not. If you play at high volume with a lot of gain the BBs may squeel on you, though I've never experienced it.
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Re: Opinions please..betw 57's and burstbuckers

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That is what I was thinking Sentry. But what BB in the neck? 1,2,3?
Both sound great. The BB 1 sounds great in the neck...(for a while I had one matched against a BB 2.) I recently went to a '57 Classic plus on the bridge, and upgraded to a BB 2 so the pickups were matched in terms of output.

I'd put the BB 1 and 2's as sweet.....a BB 1 would match well against a 57 classic, a BB 2 against a '57 Classic plus...

And the BB pro is VERY smooth in the neck. Great pickup. (Can't stand it in the bridge though.....waaayyyy too bright.)

Even though this is a "before" video on the Gibson Les Paul Custom....the BB Pro is featured in the neck of this guitar. It was a nice tone....but WB's are what they are.


PS: The smoothest bridge pup I've played up to this point is that Zhangbucker. It's really smooth...amazing string separation. (But they're not cheap at a 140 bucks a pop.) It's an A2 pickup....similar to the '57...but it's got somethin' extra for certain...

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Re: Opinions please..betw 57's and burstbuckers

Thanks Sentry. So the BB2's in the neck would be a good compliment
to the sound styles I mentioned above? Cool I may just do that.
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Re: Opinions please..betw 57's and burstbuckers

1) As always, Sentry posted a very helping video for you to decide what will be the best for you, Ides.
As a side note, he's be the best rhythm guitar player of MLP if you'd ask me.

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Just out curiosity why are your choices between those pickups? The 57s are good pickups though I don't know if you'll be able to pull off metal with them without boosting your signal a bit. But Gibson pickups are expensive compared to Seymour Duncans and Dimarzios and they (Seymour Duncan and Dimarzio that is) have a much broader range of pickups to choose from.
Whta this guy wrote here ^^ is pretty much what I think about the subject.
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Re: Opinions please..betw 57's and burstbuckers

I use BB#1 & BB#2 and I can honestly say they can handle any type of music given the right rig.
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Re: Opinions please..betw 57's and burstbuckers

I am thinking of putting the BB2 in the neck and keeping the 57 plus in the bridge. After what Sentry posted it sounded real good.
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Re: Opinions please..betw 57's and burstbuckers

To me the 57s lack something. I prefer the BB 1,2, and 3.
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Good combo right there. I love 57s.
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To me the 57s lack something. I prefer the BB 1,2, and 3.
I don't find a LOT lacking, I use a good amp and use a Barber Dirty Bomb for distortion and an OCD for an overdrive so it's not too bad. When I play Maiden's Prisoner or Cowboys From Hell it doesn't sound that bad just looking for something with more balls maybe, something that isn't a vintage, thin sounding pickup. Or no, an all around good pickup from Gibson. That can do it all with my rig. BB's do that?
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Re: Opinions please..betw 57's and burstbuckers

I play a lot of heavy stuff and all pickups sound the same on my rig with the huge amounts of distortion I put through my metal zone pedal. You ever seen anyone play death metal with a Junior? I do. LOL.

the only pickups that sound different Is ceramic magnet pickups. they give me that little extra i think you might be looking for. try a 500T or a Dirty Fingers in you bridge position.

I swapped the magnet in my BB3 with a ceramic to see how it would sound.
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Re: Opinions please..betw 57's and burstbuckers

I got a 57 in the neck of my LP. Overall good sound, but I find it does lack some "raunch" (for lack of a better term.) And I think a Burstbucker 2 might do the trick.

I have a DiMarzio Super Distortion in the bridge, which is the greatest hard rock pickup of all time.
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1) As always, Sentry posted a very helping video for you to decide what will be the best for you, Ides.
As a side note, he's be the best rhythm guitar player of MLP if you'd ask


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Aw man...thanks...but if you ever saw Jonesy play (or checked out his clips) or Phil from the UK...now those guys actually ARE badass! (Even that grumpy old bastard Greg blows my doors off!) B Squared is also a scary monster player.

Anyways....I know this one is continuing. I might have something that will be of further assistance. My band did a live gig back on the 18th....and it featured my Epi with....a '57 classic plus in the bridge and a Gibson BB2 in the neck. (If you can get past the screeching cat in pain as far as the singer goes...the first 4 live tracks were all done with that guitar through a Marshall TSL122...)

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