My Les Paul Forums
Homepage - Sponsors - Perks - Auctions - Advertise

Go Back   My Les Paul Forums > Music Gear > Tonefreaks
  


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-02-2009, 09:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 123
Thanks: 2
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Measuring pots

Sorry for asking this question, I did a search but couldn't really find the exact answer.

What method do I have to use to measure the values of the pots in my '93 Les Paul Standard? It still has the original ones...


Emiel is offline   Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Les Paul

Beitrag Sponsored Links

__________________
This advertising will not be shown in this way to registered members.
Register your free account today and become a member on My Les Paul Forums
   
Old 11-02-2009, 09:08 AM   #2 (permalink)
Master Entertainter
 
alligatorbling's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Central VA
Posts: 14,397
Thanks: 455
Thanked 550 Times in 122 Posts
Send a message via ICQ to alligatorbling Send a message via AIM to alligatorbling Send a message via MSN to alligatorbling Send a message via Yahoo to alligatorbling
Re: Measuring pots

get rid of the original ones, buying 4 500k audio tapers will cost you less than the tool you need to measure the ones you have lol

a volt ohm meter

get one with alligator clips
connect one clip to two prongs the other to one prong, by two prongs i mean (outside and middle) youll figure it out

get the cts pots
__________________

"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."

-Jiddu Krishnamurti



alligatorbling is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2009, 06:35 PM   #3 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 123
Thanks: 2
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Re: Measuring pots

I have a volt ohm meter at home. You're saying that I should connect one clip to one outside prong of the pot, the other clip to the other two?

My guitar is bright enough, I wouldn't like to switch the volume pots to 500k... though the neck pickup can be a little bit brighter. That's why I want to measure the pots, to see if the one on the neck pickup has a higher value than the bridge volume pot, because I have the feeling this is the case (the neck pickup is quite a bit darker). The pots work fine, have a good taper so I'm not really thinking of replacing them. Why change a winning horse eh?

Thanks!
Emiel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2009, 09:33 PM   #4 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
axepilot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Southern NJ
Posts: 1,352
Thanks: 14
Thanked 40 Times in 5 Posts
Re: Measuring pots

Quote:
Originally Posted by Emiel View Post
The pots work fine, have a good taper so I'm not really thinking of replacing them. Why change a winning horse eh?

Thanks!
Then why bother measuring them?
__________________
1996 Les Paul Studio Gem, 2001 Les Paul Studio Plus, 2002 SG Supreme, 2006 Les Paul Standard LE, 2008 SG Classic, Fender Double Fat Strat, Bluesville "Super" Strat copy, Fender Tele, Ovation 1897 Adamas, Taylor 355CE

Germino Club 40, Johnson JM150 Millennium, Johnson JM250 Millennium, Axe FX Standard rack rig, Mesa 4x12 cab (V30's), Highly modded Gibson Titan Medalist
axepilot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2009, 02:32 AM   #5 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: SWE
Posts: 1,254
Thanks: 58
Thanked 26 Times in 8 Posts
Re: Measuring pots

Quote:
Originally Posted by Emiel View Post
I have a volt ohm meter at home. You're saying that I should connect one clip to one outside prong of the pot, the other clip to the other two?

My guitar is bright enough, I wouldn't like to switch the volume pots to 500k... though the neck pickup can be a little bit brighter. That's why I want to measure the pots, to see if the one on the neck pickup has a higher value than the bridge volume pot, because I have the feeling this is the case (the neck pickup is quite a bit darker). The pots work fine, have a good taper so I'm not really thinking of replacing them. Why change a winning horse eh?

Thanks!
Switching to a higher value pot doesnīt necessarily means brighter as in harsh or painfull.
My Gibson stock caps were 220k and 310k for the volume pots and letīs just say that the brigde were a little ice picky sometimes and blurry.
So i bought a RS Guitarworks Vintage kit which has 2 500K RS Long Shaft SuperPots and 500K CTS Long Shaft Audio taper pots.
The sound got alot brighter but not harsh or anything like that it was 100% clarity in the sound, no more blur/mudd.
It was PIO caps as well which were real smooth.

The orange drop caps that Gibson puts in the guitars make them ice picky bright IMO.
__________________
2006 Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded Tobaco burst 50's neck with RS Guitarworks Gear

Strings; Gibson or Ernie Ball 010-046 mostly
AMP; Peavey Windsor Studio
Pedal; MXR GT-OD

www.eurotubes.com - Best customer service ever
www.gitarrdelar.se - Best place in Sweden to get RS Guitarworks gear

Me + My Gear = RockīnīRoll
MrRhoads is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2009, 07:39 AM   #6 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 123
Thanks: 2
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Re: Measuring pots

Let me explain .

I'm very happy with my guitar right now. The bridge pickup is the best I've heard, it's just right with the stock pots. The neck pickup though is thicker sounding, and also a bit darker. Most of the time I run my bridge tone knob at around 7-10, while the one of the neck stays at 10, where it's just a bit too dark compared to the bridge pickup. I would like to even them a bit more, thus giving the neck position a bit more sparkle/brightness.

I heard though that Gibson tends to put pots in these guitars with quite a big difference in value, so that one can be like 250k and the other more like 480k ohm (just an example). Now I wondering whether maybe the neck volume pot has a lower value than the bridge volume pot. If that's so, I can swap them and my 'problem' might be solved...
Emiel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2009, 10:03 AM   #7 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 21
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Measuring pots

If you have a meter, then do as alligatorbling suggested. you put one lead on an outside, and the other lead on the middle and the other outside. either way you're going to get one reading of next to nothing, then when you roll the pot the other direction, you're going to get your pots measurement. This is how you get your measurements if you are just curious.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

The rest of this is suggestion, take it for what it's worth.

You obviously already have some nice PIO caps in there. You can test the pots and see if the measurements are to your liking. If so, I would at least do a little "housecleaning" with your soldering and dress.

Another tip: You can bend the tabs and remove the back housing on your pots to make it WAY easier to clean off old solder, and resolder connections a lot cleaner. Also, the heat from soldering can ruin a pot, so this eliminates that chance. While open, you can also douse them with some electrical cleaner as general maintenance.
jake.unruh is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
PDF distance measuring program NateM Luthier's Corner 3 10-06-2009 08:40 PM
Measuring EMG outputs? oilpit Pickups 1 04-09-2009 12:02 PM
Measuring pickup resistance... stadams Pickups 3 03-14-2009 09:01 PM
another ? about measuring dc resistance in pickup AWILLIAMS64 Tonefreaks 2 03-01-2009 10:09 AM
Super pots vs standard 500k cts pots JPizzzle The Custom Shop 3 01-30-2008 01:01 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:28 PM.


Find us on Facebook!   Find us on MySpace!   Follow us on Twitter!

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Our Network: Marshall Amp Forum | Music Gear Forum | 7 String Guitar Forum