Wiring Library

[jonesy]

Here is my version of the Jimmy Page Zoso Wiring, 21 Tone Combinations. This is the Longshaft version for Les Paul Customs...

It Has 4 Push-Pull Pots...

[Frit]

Thanks for the above schematic. Unfortunately, I have it and have tried it, and it's not working for this particular guitar. I'm still looking for a 3-pup schematic that shows everything, including the switch. I have all of the ones previously mentioned....
sigh.

[jonesy]

Originally Posted by Frit

Thanks for the above schematic. Unfortunately, I have it and have tried it, and it's not working for this particular guitar. I'm still looking for a 3-pup schematic that shows everything, including the switch. I have all of the ones previously mentioned....
sigh.

Not sure what brand pickups you have in that Bird, but check out this color code chart. I have built and shipped over 50 of these JP/Zoso rigs all around the world using this schematic and color code chart and they have all worked in a wide variety of guitars. Double check your wiring...

[Peaceman]

This thread is fantastic guys, thanks to all of you who have contributed.

One question from me is this, Is there any difference in tone etc with or without the ground/earth plate that some LP's have?

[wolfy317]

Hey all, I'm new here, and I'm upgrading my stock pups in my Epi black beauty to passive EMG, but I wanted to ask if anyone knows whether the wire colors will match or not, last time I put EMG's in a guitar, the colors didn't match. Thanks for any input. I'm only putting neck and bridge pups in btw. Should I just disconnect the stock middle pup, and rewire accordingly?, or should get a third emg for the middle? THanks guys!

[richedie]

Is the Black Rose site still up?????

Does anyone know if that Modern wiring with independent volumes is correct? Ever since I went to independent volumes, my treble bleed circuit does not seem to do its job as well.

Finally, any way possible for me to test a pot when it is in the cavity to see if it is 500k?

THANKS!

[richedie]

Anymore I am thinking it is best to stick with standard LP wiring rather than mess with the core tone. Too many people report weird overtones and atreble sheen when using a treble bleed cap and some people report odd tonal changes when using independent volumes. I may go back to totally stock wiring configuration.

[getkey]

Hi guys!
Sorry for my bad english!
I hope you can help me. I'm installing an EMG Zakk Wylde set in my Epiphone Les Paul Standard, but I have a problem.
Here's a picture I made with paint. It only shows the pots and the wire from the pickup selector.
So, 3 wires coming from the pickup selector (yellow - neck pu, white - to input jack, red - bridge pu). But when they reach the pot cavity there is one more wire (a black one). I don't know, where it's coming from. And there is some kind of plug here (the brown thing on the picture). On the other side of the plug the wires have different colours. And the black wire is divided into two, and joins the white wire and one of the red wire (i have 3 wires again). Does anyone know where should i solder the wires (in the yellow circle)?
Please help me, if You can!
Thanks in advance!

[nathanmanansala]

Originally Posted by ashbass

[WadeClay]

Can anyone tell me what style of wiring my 08' studio would have. I'm assuming the obvious answer is the modern wiring diagram.

[brotor]

'08 black beauty wiring anyone?

[Gryphon]

Just joined this forum to say thanks to all the contributors. Never knew that the 50s wiring was different from modern-day. My 91 LP Std has the Peter Green (magnet flip) mod already and I had some Orange Drop 0.015uF caps sitting around, and a new soldering workstation, so I set to work replacing the stock caps and changing the layout to 50s spec. I'm glad I did. The tone controls now give much more subtle changes, the treble is retained better when the vol is rolled off, and I'm a happy ex-lurker. The only thing I might change from this point on is the bridge pu cap value as the 0.015 I put in that position doesn't give much tone change at all; just enough to be worth having the control, but I can see why others use bigger caps in that position.

[charmcitysaints]

so what is the "real" 50's wiring? in looking to change my wiring i have been doing tons of searches and have found conflicting sketches, pics and info.. sometime in the same article..

this claims to be the "real" 50's style wiring..



but that has that cap tied to the center lug on the tone control.. and then this pic is saying it is the "real" 50's wiring but tells you to move the cap from the center lug to the one where the ground was, and move the ground to the center lug.. and on the volume pot shows switching the input and output wires around..




then this one show not switching the input and out put wires around..






and then there is this.. from this thread Re-wiring Epi LP Standard



but it looks like the "modern" wiring depicted here..




god i am so confused... am i reading these incorrectly? can anyone shed some light on this?? which is the correct way?

i found this on the gibson site..

[jonesy]

I use the one marked 50's style wiring and take it to be correct. Center lug on tone soldered back to case and cap connected to center lug on volume pot.

[jonesy]

How about this one?

[charmcitysaints]

thanks jonesy..

[jonesy]

Your Welcome bro, if you need any help with wiring just let me know OK?

[VastHorizon]

Why did I just see one cap in my 3-pickup strat?

[jonesy]

Originally Posted by Winterheim

Why did I just see one cap in my 3-pickup strat?

Stock Fender wiring just uses 1 cap for both of your tone controls actually. Some guys add another cap and have different value for each tone control.
Also check to see if your lower tone control works bridge pu, chances are it doesn't unless you have delta-tone or a little jumper wire added on switch.

[VastHorizon]

Originally Posted by jonesy

Stock Fender wiring just uses 1 cap for both of your tone controls actually. Some guys add another cap and have different value for each tone control.
Also check to see if your lower tone control works bridge pu, chances are it doesn't unless you have delta-tone or a little jumper wire added on switch.

I think so too. My lower tone control knob does not control the bridge pup. Do you have a picture where I can copy the 2 cap and bottom tone control mod. Thanks Jonesy!

[jonesy]

No diagram for the two cap circuit, here is link to American Standard Strat Wiring...look at the little U jumper on middle right side of switch.
http://www.fender.com/support/diagra...400_02CPg2.pdf

You would leave the one cap right where it is, cut the jumper between tone pots and wire the cap on lower tone pot from center lug back to case and I think that should do it? On my 2003 American Strat I have the delta-tone circuit so it has jumper on switch, but I only have just the one cap. I replaced my stock cap with a Sprague HYREL PIO .022 and I like what that does for my Tone on all my pickups.

[jonesy]

I just did the Peter Green Mod on the neck pu of my 99' LP for those who would like to see how it is actually done.

Peter Green Mod Pictorial by Jonesy

[Nils]

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[aphid]

Hey Jonsey! That's very neat indeed... want to see my efforts at the JP wiring?



What a mess!!! Strangely though it works

I say it works.... all the push/pulls etc work perfectly, but the tone controls don't function at all. Which raises the question, what caps should I be using? I'm not sure I understand what difference the 100v vs 400v makes?

This was all done using a stripped out length of network cable, a soldering iron with a tip as thick as your little finger and some orange drops that were lying around one of the labs at work! It was an 'experiment', but I'm so taken by the set up that I've got hold of a decent iron and I'm going to have another go - your beutifully neat harness has spured me into action!

[jonesy]

Hey at least you tried Bro, make the next one a little neater, that's how we learn. Voltage is not really an issue 100v-600v caps on guitars are common.
Take the bottom lead of your caps and wire them to the center lug of tone pot, not outside lug and they might work

peace, jonesy

[aphid]

For sure - I'll post the results and you can judge if it was worth the investment in a new iron.

One other thing that I'm not sure is normal... if I pull the neck tone it puts the bridge and neck pickups in series, as expected. This works in conjunction with the single coil push pulls no problems. However, the pickup selector does strange things - on neck or middle you get both pickups in series, but on the bridge selector you get a massive drop in volume.

Clearly there is a small problem, but it does not currently stop me getting the in-series tone (which is a personal favorite), just that I have to be careful not to engage it while the pickup selector is in the treble position.

What I would expect when you pull the series switch is that it would either only work in the middle selector position or that it would work in all three selector positions. The reasoning being that the whole point of in-series is to use both pickups - Doh!

Without knowing what the correct response it's difficult to test. Any hints?

[jonesy]

Series mod was only meant to work with switch in middle position is all, you probably go it right?

[jonesy77777]

Originally Posted by jonesy

How about this one?

Hey Jonesy,

This pic is perfect, but how is the wiring if you don't have braided wire coming from the switch?

[jonesy]

Originally Posted by jonesy77777

Hey Jonesy,

This pic is perfect, but how is the wiring if you don't have braided wire coming from the switch?

Hey bro, well that is more of and old school set-up for sure, here is a more modern way of running it a 3 way toggle switch with a pair of humbuckers,. Just ignore all the other mods and look how wires from switch go back to the volume pots, in put jack etc. there is separate wire for ground...

[KP Willits]

Originally Posted by jonesy

No diagram for the two cap circuit, here is link to American Standard Strat Wiring...look at the little U jumper on middle right side of switch.
http://www.fender.com/support/diagra...400_02CPg2.pdf

You would leave the one cap right where it is, cut the jumper between tone pots and wire the cap on lower tone pot from center lug back to case and I think that should do it? On my 2003 American Strat I have the delta-tone circuit so it has jumper on switch, but I only have just the one cap. I replaced my stock cap with a Sprague HYREL PIO .022 and I like what that does for my Tone on all my pickups.

So, Jonesy... how does that work when the switch has all the lugs on the same side? Which lugs need to be jumped for that? Thanks.....