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[TheJrAce]

I'm looking to wire up my lp and need help with a diagram of sorts. Its a 2 humbuckers guitar with the neck pickup having just 1 conducter and the bridge having 4. Want to do volume, volume, tone with 50s wiring, the bridge pup having a coil tap( using just one coil, not quite sure if its called a coil tap or split coil) switch and a 3 way selector. Found a diagram, thanks to Jonesy, of a VVT w/ the 3 way selector, but no mention of 50s wiring or a coil tap/split coil for the bridge. Already have all the parts ready, just a diagram. Can anyone help me out with wiring?

[will c]

Originally Posted by TheJrAce

I'm looking to wire up my lp and need help with a diagram of sorts. Its a 2 humbuckers guitar with the neck pickup having just 1 conducter and the bridge having 4. Want to do volume, volume, tone with 50s wiring, the bridge pup having a coil tap( using just one coil, not quite sure if its called a coil tap or split coil) switch and a 3 way selector. Found a diagram, thanks to Jonesy, of a VVT w/ the 3 way selector, but no mention of 50s wiring or a coil tap/split coil for the bridge. Already have all the parts ready, just a diagram. Can anyone help me out with wiring?

Follow this to get your 50's wiring:



Notice how the cap is connected to the tone pot and the jack tip (hot - the blue wire)? Now, for complete 50's wiring, you need to switch the tone pot's ground and cap wires.

The coil split is easy. I'll refer to this:



With the 2-conductor neck PUP you wire the hot wire to the outside lug of your neck volume (Seymour's "Black" wire). The "Green" and "Bare" wires are the shielding of your of your neck PUP. There are no "Red and "White" wires so ignore them in the diagram (for neck PUP only).

Wire up the bridge pickup as shown. Also, wire the push/pull switch as shown (ignore the pot lugs and grounding) except you only need the ground directly in line with your "Red" and "White" wires.

I hope this makes sense and helps a little. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

Will

[guitarver]

I'd like to see some options for a 3 pickup custom. I think isolating the middle pickup to bring in from a separate switch but including it in phase tweak, coil tap and also subject to a master tone would be good. I think having the push pull for the coil tap on that one pickup would work and possibly a mini toggle to just shut the pickup on and off?

The advantage of that for me would be to have the classic sounds of a two pickup, then a 3 pickup but also getting the Peter Green / Jimmy Page option of the phase in and out as well as the Tele / Strat sort of deal with the single coil combos.

There's got to be a schematic or two out there to cover this [a diagram would be better]. You know, a rotary switch someplace maybe a good option too as long as you put a chicken head knob on it and maybe the artiface or look of the ones they'd have on the old ES / Chuck Berry geets. You'd keep the Gibson look there that way and be able to bring in a lot of extra sound options.

Thoughts? I'm just blowing this crap out the side of my head.

If anybody has a diagram or feels up to drawing one and posting it that would be great. I may take a shot at it. IT's a good way to even supe up an Epiphone off of Craig's list or whatever [he-he]. Why not?

I'd appreciate people's opinions and thoughts on this though for sure. It'd be good to have that diagram in the canon of this page. [or variations on the 3 pickup custom beyond the bottom end crap I see all the time].

Bob

[maidenstrat]

Guys can anyone make me a schematic for my les paul. I have two push pulls at the tone position and when i pull the bridge one i want to go from series to parrallel, and when i pull the neck one to go out of phase.

[edhok78]

guys help on my wiring problem..

i would like to have a 50 wiring with independent volume controls and independent tone controls for each volume control..
and with two pickups working when the switch toggle is on the middle..

thankk.. guyss..

[jonesy]

Originally Posted by edhok78

guys help on my wiring problem..

i would like to have a 50 wiring with independent volume controls and independent tone controls for each volume control..
and with two pickups working when the switch toggle is on the middle..

thankk.. guyss..

Pay close attention to where the pickup and switch leads are soldered to the volume pots.

[will c]

edhok78
Re: Wiring Library
guys help on my wiring problem..

i would like to have a 50 wiring with independent volume controls and independent tone controls for each volume control..
and with two pickups working when the switch toggle is on the middle..

thankk.. guyss..

Originally Posted by jonesy

Pay close attention to where the pickup and switch leads are soldered to the volume pots.

+1

Read the first page of this thread and you'll get it no problem.

Will

[edhok78]

Originally Posted by will c

+1

Read the first page of this thread and you'll get it no problem.

Will

thanks guys.. it's my first time to rewire my guitar..
how about the wiring of the toggle switch???
it's confusing too.. i have a switchcraft toggle switch with 5 lugs to connect 3 on one side and 2 on the other side..
thanks once again...

[jonesy]

Originally Posted by edhok78

thanks guys.. it's my first time to rewire my guitar..
how about the wiring of the toggle switch???
it's confusing too.. i have a switchcraft toggle switch with 5 lugs to connect 3 on one side and 2 on the other side..
thanks once again...

If it is an actual Switchcraft jack the two lugs on the back are the hot and they go to the hot lug on your input jack, as far as the 3 on the front go the larger center lug is ground that solders to the back of your bridge volume pot and the lugs on each side of the ground lug are the neck/bridge hot leads that run to each volume pot.

This 50's wiring diagram (not independent volumes) shows vintage braided wire being used, but single strand wire can also be used as well.

[edhok78]

thanks sir jonesy for the replies.. i'll follow your diagrams and instructions..

one more question..is it okey if the grounds on the pots are soldered together or touching each other?

more power to this thread..
ciao!!

[jonesy]

Originally Posted by edhok78

thanks sir jonesy for the replies.. i'll follow your diagrams and instructions..

one more question..is it okey if the grounds on the pots are soldered together or touching each other?

more power to this thread..
ciao!!

Normally you will have a ground wire running to the backs of all the pots except between the two volume pots. That is known as your ground loop.

[River]

Not a lot of demand for this one, but I spent a lot of time looking for it, so... Hofner two-pickup wiring for flat-panel guitars, e.g. Club 40, 50, and 60:

[simmunz]

Hello, I'm asking for help with an idea I have for redoing my ES-345. I searched around and didn't find a diagram for this one. It's probably pretty simple to figure out combining many of the useful diagrams on here but I'm still learning how things interact with one another.

I want to convert it to mono and have the volume pots act like my Les Paul(not independent)
I prefer 50's style wiring. Instead of tone knobs I would like a spin-a-split for each pickup and a master tone where the varitone switch normally goes.

If anyone can help with the drawing or if you have any suggestions I would appreciate it.
Thanks!

[djem]

I've looked through this entire thread and haven't found an answer to what I'm looking for. I apologize if I've missed something.

What possible JP circuit configurations can be made with:

1. a single conductor neck pup - SD '59
2. 4 conductor bridge pup - SD JB
3. 2 DPDT pots
4. 2 normal pots

I'd like to have a 50's tone circuit as well.

PS - I would like to avoid converting my "59 neck pup into 4 conductor.

[jonesy]

I use this a lot...

[djem]

Originally Posted by jonesy

I use this a lot...

I have as well, but it looks like I'm limited with my single conductor '59 neck pup. I think I'll end up doing the 4 conductor mod to the neck pup.

[edhok78]

Originally Posted by jonesy

Normally you will have a ground wire running to the backs of all the pots except between the two volume pots. That is known as your ground loop.

sir jonesy..again i have a problem with my guitar..at volume 0 still there a sound from both pickups.. i dont know why but i followed the diagrams you gave. What could be the problem.?

[jonesy]

Originally Posted by edhok78

sir jonesy..again i have a problem with my guitar..at volume 0 still there a sound from both pickups.. i dont know why but i followed the diagrams you gave. What could be the problem.?

Most likely the outside lugs on the volume pots are not soldered back (grounded) to the case. Try checking that and let me know if that corrects the problem. If you could also post some pics of your wiring that helps out a lot with trouble shooting as well.

[TyrantLizard]

Forgive me if I missed it, but I haven't seen a diagram for the 50s wiring mod on a PRS McCarty - 2 Humbuckers, 1Volume, 1Tone, 3-way switch.

Also, I got a .015 Sprague and a .022 Vitamin Q. Which would you recommend in this application when running a SD-1N ('59) and a SD-4 (JB)?

Do I simply tie the cap to the Volume output (switch)?

[jonesy]

Originally Posted by TyrantLizard

Forgive me if I missed it, but I haven't seen a diagram for the 50s wiring mod on a PRS McCarty - 2 Humbuckers, 1Volume, 1Tone, 3-way switch.

Also, I got a .015 Sprague and a .022 Vitamin Q. Which would you recommend in this application when running a SD-1N ('59) and a SD-4 (JB)?

Do I simply tie the cap to the Volume output (switch)?

Post #373

Here is one way of doing it. I modded a Tele diagram for someone who wanted to use a 3 way LP style toggle but I think it is basically the same thing you are asking for. You could always post a pic of how that PRS is wired up now?

The either of those caps would work fine, the .015 will give you a little more useful room on the Tone control and a bit more upper mids and less bass when rolled off than the .022

[edhok78]

Originally Posted by jonesy

Most likely the outside lugs on the volume pots are not soldered back (grounded) to the case. Try checking that and let me know if that corrects the problem. If you could also post some pics of your wiring that helps out a lot with trouble shooting as well.

here is the picture of my wiring

[TyrantLizard]

Jonesy, you are the tone god (small 'g'). My McCarty is wired exactly as this SD diagram. Is it possible to mod to the 50s wiring. If not, should I obey this outline or tie the cap to one of the Volume lugs rather than soldering it back to the Tone body for ground?

Thanx in advance.

[jonesy]

Originally Posted by TyrantLizard

Jonesy, you are the tone god (small 'g'). My McCarty is wired exactly as this SD diagram. Is it possible to mod to the 50s wiring. If not, should I obey this outline or tie the cap to one of the Volume lugs rather than soldering it back to the Tone body for ground?

Thanx in advance.

Yeah I was thinking that might be how it was. Well with the cap tied back to the Tone pot like that it really sucks the Tone out of your signal especially when volume is rolled off. I would remove the cap, solder the center lug of the Tone pot back to the case. Put the cap where the jumper is between the outer lugs of the volume and Tone pot and run that center hot lead from the switch to the outside of the volume lug.

It would look like that modded Tele diagram with the 3 way LP style switch I posted. That is as close to 50's wiring you are going to get on that kind of set-up. You will have a more open sound and your highs should be preserved when volumes are rolled down.

[jonesy]

Originally Posted by edhok78

here is the picture of my wiring

Originally Posted by edhok78

sir jonesy..again i have a problem with my guitar..at volume 0 still there a sound from both pickups.. i dont know why but i followed the diagrams you gave. What could be the problem.?

So you are going with 50's wiring and dependent volumes? I looked at those pics and from what I can see it looks like you have it wired correctly. Just wondering the red leads are coming from the switch correct? And the braided wire with gray hot lead are from the pickups? You may have melted something in there somewhere, I can't make everything out in those pics. What about the connections right at the switch, is there anything touching or solder dripped down into the tabs?

[FourT6and2]

Has anybody tried a Modern/50's hybrid? For example, the bridge volume/tone pots wired for 50's style and the neck volume/tone wired for modern.

Would it work so that when bridge is selected, it works just like 50's, when neck selected works just like modern, and when middle position is selected... what?

[if6was9]

Originally Posted by FourT6and2

Has anybody tried a Modern/50's hybrid? For example, the bridge volume/tone pots wired for 50's style and the neck volume/tone wired for modern.

Would it work so that when bridge is selected, it works just like 50's, when neck selected works just like modern, and when middle position is selected... what?

I'm very interested in the answer to this also.

[jonesy]

Originally Posted by FourT6and2

Has anybody tried a Modern/50's hybrid? For example, the bridge volume/tone pots wired for 50's style and the neck volume/tone wired for modern.

Would it work so that when bridge is selected, it works just like 50's, when neck selected works just like modern, and when middle position is selected... what?

It's normally done the other way around, Bridge is wired modern for more warmth and compression since it is brighter and neck is wired 50's so it is not so dark and more open. When switch is in the middle your controls function separately anyways, so it's the same. Dan Erlewine from Stew Mac suggests that method in his book.

[edhok78]

Originally Posted by jonesy

So you are going with 50's wiring and dependent volumes? I looked at those pics and from what I can see it looks like you have it wired correctly. Just wondering the red leads are coming from the switch correct? And the braided wire with gray hot lead are from the pickups? You may have melted something in there somewhere, I can't make everything out in those pics. What about the connections right at the switch, is there anything touching or solder dripped down into the tabs?

the red wire comes from the pickups and the braided wire comes from the switch..what do you mean ¨is there anything touching or solder dripped down into the tabs?¨ ?? what is the tabs?
sorry im not that good in english.

[if6was9]

Originally Posted by jonesy

It's normally done the other way around, Bridge is wired modern for more warmth and compression since it is brighter and neck is wired 50's so it is not so dark and more open. When switch is in the middle your controls function separately anyways, so it's the same. Dan Erlewine from Stew Mac suggests that method in his book.

Thanks Jonesy

[jonesy]

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