allparts any good?

schmidty123 · 07-02-2009, 06:06 PM

i just bought a new pot for my bridge volume it was like 6 bucks it says epo86 500k cts on the bottom of it i was just wondering if its any good

hillbilly · 07-02-2009, 07:01 PM

I'd be interested to see what it reads on a meter...

schmidty123 · 07-02-2009, 07:29 PM

is it a company that cuts corners or something like that? am i still gonna have to route out the holes?

hillbilly · 07-02-2009, 07:36 PM

They may 'cut corners' by getting a better price on the pots by not having very high tolerances on their pots. For example, with a 30% tolerance, they'll sell you a "500K" pot that reads 350K...hey, it's 'within tolderance'...

You get what you pay for.

And you'll still have to enlarge the holes in your guitar if you bought a CTS pot from allparts. A few moments with an Exacto knife isn't exactly "routing"...

schmidty123 · 07-02-2009, 08:00 PM

lol very true man i just hope there better than the stock epi ones if not ill be pretty pissed lol

rockmonkey · 07-02-2009, 08:34 PM

It's going to depend on how new the stock is. Older CTS pots were good but they have taken a nosedive in the last year. Tone should still be more "alive" with the CTS pots but the taper may or may not be very good and it's actual reading for a 500K pot could be anything from 350K to 600K

schmidty123 · 07-03-2009, 01:09 PM

oh ok so pretty much a mystery pot lol awsome

hillbilly · 07-03-2009, 02:04 PM

As a comparison, we (RS) meter & clean ALL of our pots, and those that don't meet or exceed the spec's don't get sold.

You get what you pay for.

tehorix789 · 07-03-2009, 11:29 PM

I'm thinking of updating the pots in my 2000 Gibson Les Paul 1960 Classic and in my 1997 Strat Plus Deluxe.

I'm unclear about whether there are different types of pots to be used for the volume control and a different type to be used for the tone control. RS Guitarworks' site talks about a "super pot" (which apparently is made specially for them by CTS) for volume and a (regular?) audio pot for tone.

What if I am installing regular "non-super" pots for all controls? Then do I have to worry about volume vs. tone pots? Or is the same standard "audio pot" used for both tone and volume? Thanks.

nwobhm · 07-03-2009, 11:59 PM

What is it about the original pots you don't like?

tehorix789 · 07-04-2009, 01:24 AM

Well, I still haven't decided 100% on the Les Paul, but I am installing new pickups in my Strat and I noticed that the 2nd tone control is like a "double stacked tone pot" (one under another) and I remembered that's the mid-boost feature. I don't want that and instead want to replace it with a standard pot.

So, I was just wondering if there's a special type of pot intended for the tone control versus the volume control.

In other words, should the EP 0085 250K CTS Audio Pot that I just bought be alright for the 2nd tone position?

rockmonkey · 07-04-2009, 06:00 AM

It'll be fine for the tone pot.

hillbilly · 07-04-2009, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nwobhm

What is it about the original pots you don't like?

The taper on Audio taper pots isn't very good, and the SuperPot is a huge improvement in adjustability.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tehorix789

I'm thinking of updating the pots in my 2000 Gibson Les Paul 1960 Classic and in my 1997 Strat Plus Deluxe.

I'm unclear about whether there are different types of pots to be used for the volume control and a different type to be used for the tone control. RS Guitarworks' site talks about a "super pot" (which apparently is made specially for them by CTS) for volume and a (regular?) audio pot for tone.

What if I am installing regular "non-super" pots for all controls? Then do I have to worry about volume vs. tone pots? Or is the same standard "audio pot" used for both tone and volume? Thanks.

You can use Audio taper pots all the way around, but the taper on the Volume controls won't be as responsive as the RS SuperPots in the Volumes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tehorix789

Well, I still haven't decided 100% on the Les Paul, but I am installing new pickups in my Strat and I noticed that the 2nd tone control is like a "double stacked tone pot" (one under another) and I remembered that's the mid-boost feature. I don't want that and instead want to replace it with a standard pot.

So, I was just wondering if there's a special type of pot intended for the tone control versus the volume control.

In other words, should the EP 0085 250K CTS Audio Pot that I just bought be alright for the 2nd tone position?

250K audio for your Tone control in your Strat; 500K will make it sound a little brighter but still can be used.

tehorix789 · 07-04-2009, 12:31 PM

Thanks a lot for the quick and thorough responses, guys!

07-02-2009, 06:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
schmidty123 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: rhode island Posts: 685 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	allparts any good? i just bought a new pot for my bridge volume it was like 6 bucks it says epo86 500k cts on the bottom of it i was just wondering if its any good

07-02-2009, 07:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
hillbilly V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 834 Thanks: 0 Thanked 48 Times in 10 Posts	Re: allparts any good? I'd be interested to see what it reads on a meter... __________________ Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting for what to eat for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb disputing that vote.---Benjamin Franklin >>> RS GUITARWORKS <<< Southern Electric

07-02-2009, 07:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
schmidty123 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: rhode island Posts: 685 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: allparts any good? is it a company that cuts corners or something like that? am i still gonna have to route out the holes?

07-02-2009, 07:36 PM	#4 (permalink)
hillbilly V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 834 Thanks: 0 Thanked 48 Times in 10 Posts	Re: allparts any good? They may 'cut corners' by getting a better price on the pots by not having very high tolerances on their pots. For example, with a 30% tolerance, they'll sell you a "500K" pot that reads 350K...hey, it's 'within tolderance'... You get what you pay for. And you'll still have to enlarge the holes in your guitar if you bought a CTS pot from allparts. A few moments with an Exacto knife isn't exactly "routing"... __________________ Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting for what to eat for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb disputing that vote.---Benjamin Franklin >>> RS GUITARWORKS <<< Southern Electric

07-02-2009, 08:00 PM	#5 (permalink)
schmidty123 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: rhode island Posts: 685 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: allparts any good? lol very true man i just hope there better than the stock epi ones if not ill be pretty pissed lol

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07-02-2009, 08:34 PM	#6 (permalink)
rockmonkey Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Mid Wales Posts: 162 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Re: allparts any good? It's going to depend on how new the stock is. Older CTS pots were good but they have taken a nosedive in the last year. Tone should still be more "alive" with the CTS pots but the taper may or may not be very good and it's actual reading for a 500K pot could be anything from 350K to 600K __________________ rockmonkeyguitars.com Proud user of the cheap but very nice kits from diyguitarshop.com

07-03-2009, 01:09 PM	#7 (permalink)
schmidty123 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: rhode island Posts: 685 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: allparts any good? oh ok so pretty much a mystery pot lol awsome

07-03-2009, 02:04 PM	#8 (permalink)
hillbilly V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 834 Thanks: 0 Thanked 48 Times in 10 Posts	Re: allparts any good? As a comparison, we (RS) meter & clean ALL of our pots, and those that don't meet or exceed the spec's don't get sold. You get what you pay for. __________________ Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting for what to eat for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb disputing that vote.---Benjamin Franklin >>> RS GUITARWORKS <<< Southern Electric

07-03-2009, 11:29 PM	#9 (permalink)
tehorix789 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: allparts any good? I'm thinking of updating the pots in my 2000 Gibson Les Paul 1960 Classic and in my 1997 Strat Plus Deluxe. I'm unclear about whether there are different types of pots to be used for the volume control and a different type to be used for the tone control. RS Guitarworks' site talks about a "super pot" (which apparently is made specially for them by CTS) for volume and a (regular?) audio pot for tone. What if I am installing regular "non-super" pots for all controls? Then do I have to worry about volume vs. tone pots? Or is the same standard "audio pot" used for both tone and volume? Thanks.

07-03-2009, 11:59 PM	#10 (permalink)
nwobhm Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: NC Posts: 696 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 1 Post	Re: allparts any good? What is it about the original pots you don't like?

07-04-2009, 01:24 AM	#11 (permalink)
tehorix789 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: allparts any good? Well, I still haven't decided 100% on the Les Paul, but I am installing new pickups in my Strat and I noticed that the 2nd tone control is like a "double stacked tone pot" (one under another) and I remembered that's the mid-boost feature. I don't want that and instead want to replace it with a standard pot. So, I was just wondering if there's a special type of pot intended for the tone control versus the volume control. In other words, should the EP 0085 250K CTS Audio Pot that I just bought be alright for the 2nd tone position?

07-04-2009, 06:00 AM	#12 (permalink)
rockmonkey Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Mid Wales Posts: 162 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Re: allparts any good? It'll be fine for the tone pot. __________________ rockmonkeyguitars.com Proud user of the cheap but very nice kits from diyguitarshop.com

07-04-2009, 12:31 PM	#14 (permalink)
tehorix789 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: allparts any good? Thanks a lot for the quick and thorough responses, guys!

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